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SALFORD QUAYS CRANES TO BE REPLACED WITH £150,000 PHONE APP
 

Star date: 8th October 2013

A Salford Star Exclusive

CARGO CRANES TO BE DEMOLISHED AND COMMEMORATED ON £150,000 MOBILE PHONE APP

"It's absolutely ridiculous, if there's money available for a mobile phone app then there's money available to restore the cranes" Salford Quays Heritage and Nature Group

The blue cargo cranes on Salford Quays, which many Salford people want to see restored and saved, will be demolished and remembered on a mobile phone app costing around £150,000 to develop. Part of the money is being taken direct from the original budget which was ring fenced to restore the cranes.

Full details here…


Salford Quays Dockers Memorial Salford Quays Cranes
click image to enlarge

Back in November 2012, when Salford City Mayor, Ian Stewart signed the death warrant for the blue Salford Quays cargo cranes, his report stated that they would be replaced with "new heritage interpretation features".

Now, it looks like the "new heritage interpretation feature" is to be part of a Salford Quays mobile phone app costing £150,000.

A Salford Council heritage report states that "in the report to the City Mayor concerning the removal of the cargo cranes, officers recommended that any future heritage interpretation in the area be considered through the council's emerging Heritage Vision. However, an opportunity to work with Quays Culture to develop a project in advance of the production of the Heritage Vision has arisen…"

The `opportunity' is a project being developed by an organisation called Quays Culture (public funding via AGMA, the Arts Council and National Lottery) which aims to produce a `downloadable visitor guide to The Quays Quays', or app, "which will use text and visual images to show the past/present/potential future of the area, providing prompts to highlight landmarks, key buildings etc".

In other words, you point the thing at the empty site and it will show the cranes that used to be there.

And yet another "event will take place to capture people's memories of the area, perceptions of present and potential future development". There's already been loads of similar `heritage' events, costing hundreds of thousands of pounds, like The Lowry's Unlocking Salford Quays.

The Heritage report adds: "Given that Members are keen to see a heritage interpretation project at the Quays following the removal of the cargo cranes, officers consider that a collaborative project with Quays Culture can provide an opportunity in this respect, in terms of its scope, profile and impact."

To rub salt in the cranes' mortal wounds, the money to pay for the Quays Culture app is coming out of what's left of the funding set aside to restore them.

"The council has a £50,000 to £100,000 'below the line' allocation within the Capital budget for a heritage project at the Quays (from cargo cranes allocation)" the report notes, adding that "initial discussions' with Quays Culture identified a budget of £150,000 as reasonable for such a project".

The report reckons that £100,000 could come from the National Lottery, with Salford City Council adding a £50,000 `contribution', although it adds that `no fixed costs have been identified'.

There has been an ongoing campaign by organisations like Salford Docklands Heritage and Nature Group and the Manchester Ship Canal Conservation Network to Save The Cranes, with a petition gathering over 1,000 signatures against the demolition. But Salford Council reports argued that the cranes "now detract from the Quays vista" and their refurbishment didn't represent "good value for money".

Figures produced by Salford Council itself, however, showed there was just a £25,000 shortfall plus £8,000 a year maintenance in the capital budget for the work (£648,500 to `disassemble, refurbish and re-erect' the structures, with £626,000 ring fenced…see Salford Star article – click here). 

Today, campaigners trying to Save The Cranes were staggered when the Salford Star informed them of the Council's intentions…

"It's absolutely ridiculous, if there's money available for a mobile phone app then there's money available to restore the cranes" said James Walsh of Salford Docklands Heritage and Nature Group

"Once again they are showing no respect for the people of Salford" he added "The cranes stands as a memorial to the dockers who gave their service to the city of Salford. No-one in their right mind would destroy a war memorial so why should the cranes be any different? The cranes have become an unofficial memorial for the dockers."

• See also previous Salford Star articles and links on the Salford Quays cranes for a full background – click here and click here and click here and click here

• Sign the Change.org petition to Save The Cranes – click here

• See also Save Our Cranes facebook group

 

UPDATE 9th October 2013

Last night, the groups Save Salford, the Salford Docklands Heritage and Nature Group and the Manchester Ship Canal Conservation Network issued a joint statement about the "surreal decision that the cranes should be replaced with a mobile phone app"

"We shall continue to pursue whatever avenues we can to keep the cranes as a tribute to the dockers who built the city of Salford. We continue to hold the belief that the cranes are not only of national importance, but are internationally important. Salford docks used to be linked to the whole world through ships and trade, and the cranes can be a global link for the city through tourism now and in the future

"The more and more research we do, the more we are finding docks cities all over the world that are conserving and restoring their cranes as tributes to their workers and as economically profitable tourism attractions, why can't Salford do the same?"

POLITICAL PROCESS A SHAM !

"The political process regarding the cranes has been very shabby, from English Heritages' decision last year that the cranes were only of local importance, to Salford City Council ignoring the advice of English Heritage that they should be listed locally, to the farcical Community Preservation Order process, to the surreal decision that the cranes should be replaced with a mobile phone app! This decision has been met with incredulity within the Salford community"

COMMUNITY ACTION

"The Salford community has been busy with the fight to save the cranes A Save Our Cranes petition has collected over 1,000 signatures
http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-our-cranes?source=facebook-share-button&time=1375767236

Local folk have even made their own Save Our Cranes video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsqFH_keqjA

OFFICIAL MEMORIAL

"Our community consultation of large numbers of Salfordians suggests that the cranes have universal support within the community. Why are Salford City Council so intent on removing them when they are so popular with Salfordians ? You wouldn't see Agra Council knocking down the Taj Mahal or the Mayor of New York City knocking down the Statue of Liberty ! The cranes now stand as a tribute to all those who gave their lives in one way or another to the docks, no council in their right mind would get rid of a war memorial so why should the cranes be any different?

"The cranes have become an unofficial memorial to the dockers, it is time they became an OFFICIAL MEMORIAL AND TRIBUTE TO THE DOCKERS"


Brian Francis Kirkham wrote
at 14:11:39 on 18 October 2013
Notice for Mr Felse - capturing the cranes - I've already done this, as have many local artists - if they'd asked formally I would have happily handed them a print...then again I sense you're cheerleading again...If Peel had had their way the cranes would have no doubt found their way into a local warehouse ready for the treatment and re-spray most have been calling for. One only hopes these "Heritage Interpretation Features" they go on about have some heritage about them.
 
Michael Felse wrote
at 07:20:07 on 18 October 2013
Urgent Notice for local photographers wishing to capture history. I today had a letter from Urban Vision Partnership to say the Salford Quays Cargo Cranes will be removed, with work beginning 25th October until 28th October 2013. The Quays road at that section will be closed with diversion in place.
 
The Fat End of The Wedge wrote
at 20:24:11 on 10 October 2013
Maybe Peel Holdings could be persuaded to finance the restoration of these cranes as a link to the new Port Salford? Over to you Mr. Mayor sir.
 
Linda Robson wrote
at 15:02:09 on 10 October 2013
Everything community, everything heritage, everything good about Salford is being eroded away by a Council which is supposed to stand for it's people. It's heartbreaking. I see those cranes everytime I go down to the docks and they make an amazing skyline and stand proud in memory of the many many men and women who have contributed to Salford's economy with their blood sweat and tears. An app? for crying out loud. This is nothing short of arrogance and unbelievable ignorance!
 
White wrote
at 09:37:46 on 10 October 2013
I and none of my friends own modern, state of the art mobile phones. Ours simply send and receive calls. How are we going to view what had been destroyed? I’m sure we are not alone with this problem.
 
Prisoner Irlam wrote
at 21:25:09 on 09 October 2013
Gloucester Docks fantastic restored cranes ,and heritage site.;) come to Salford and see a vision of destruction even Dr Evil would be saddened ;(
 
Winston Smith wrote
at 21:25:04 on 09 October 2013
Here's a better idea - replace the councillors and mayors with a mobile phone app. Pointing your iphone at an empty room and listening to pre-recorded audio of people talking bollocks would not only save loads of money but would be more interactive
 
Concerned for Mike wrote
at 21:24:48 on 09 October 2013
Can somebody please take Michael Felse down to Salford royal and get him assessed URGENTLY. Ashworth for you I think Mike, that's where the most dangerous to our democratic society go.
 
Charley le Tissier wrote
at 12:03:06 on 09 October 2013
Salfordians getting shafted by their own Council again...shock horror
 
Michael Felse wrote
at 12:02:09 on 09 October 2013
Hi Joe, I never smoke and must correct your comment. I did not try to fight Stewart. I merely worked to spread the candidates field to help split the anti Labour vote, with the achieved result for Labour. It must be Labour in Salford and election tactics are an interesting concept that fascinates my hobby horse.
 
dave lindsay wrote
at 07:40:23 on 09 October 2013
These cranes are a part of Salfords History and Heritage. They should be restored like the cranes in other major city docks have been..London, Liverpool, Glasgow, Belfast..etc..Just because someone living in the Quay's, does not like the view from their posh pad, these pieces of the historic Salford docks, are to be condemed. An absolutely disgusting decision. Well done Mr Stewart, it seems that preservation orders/grade listed does not mean a thing to the Salford Council. Smells iffy (£££)to me!!
 
Dockers Son wrote
at 07:39:49 on 09 October 2013
For people wishing to research Quays Culture http://quaysculture.com/ It seems very ironic that this organisation might be contributing to the potential destruction of OUR CULTURE One wonders why this organisation was contacted regarding heritage intepretation and NOT the local organisation that have a Community Preservation Order on the Asset
 
Matt Simpson wrote
at 22:16:08 on 08 October 2013
I'll try to ask Mr Stewart, Mr Dobbs, Mr Mashiter or Mr Clague why on Thursday night at the Weaste and Seedley election count. That's if any of them bother turning up.
 
brian f kirkham wrote
at 22:16:00 on 08 October 2013
Hang on a moment...another big idea from an outside firm taking locals cash??? I've just reread the article...who are Quays culture??? What is their background ? Have they done any work for the council before? If so..what? Do they understand that the lo tech solution might be more palatable to those who once worked there, and furthermore...who's idea was it they could see it on a mobile phone ... what if you haven't got one chaps?.if council or peel had looked after the cranes you could see them in their entirety...darn good job I created those art pieces when I did! Peel and salford s vision of local heritage ...created using a blindfold!
 
Joe O'Neill wrote
at 22:15:28 on 08 October 2013
Well my old man was a Docker I wonder what would he say if he was still alive, probably think I was taking the piss or was pissed if I told him over the phone app. When I read the story I thought Steve had got the dates wrong , I checked to see if it was April the first, And Michael what have you been smoking because you are not the man I sat with getting ready to fight Stewart.
 
reg loomis wrote
at 22:15:21 on 08 October 2013
Its time Mayor Rent-a Gob got stuffed and put on display .
 
Carl McKenna wrote
at 18:55:37 on 08 October 2013
I was down in Portsmouth on Saturday (5th Oct), at Gunwharf Quay. They have a dock crane there that is restored and a centre piece. Why can't we do the same in Salford? Are we ashamed of our heritage and past?
 
Dockers Son wrote
at 18:55:31 on 08 October 2013
Just for the record, despite the fact that Salford Docklands Heritage & Nature Group submitted a COMMUNITY PRESERVATION ORDER for the cranes, we only found out about this mobile app from the Salford Star You would have thought that an organisation that cares enough about a Community Asset that it has a Community Preservation Order on the Asset would be informed about what is happening with that asset, but not a jot, there was no information, no consultation Despite a large amount of community action regarding this issue from the people of Salford, our wishes continue to be ignored, what happened to the Big Society ??
 
margaret tunnacliffe wrote
at 18:54:59 on 08 October 2013
Again.no idea what the people of Salford want.
 
tom nolan wrote
at 18:54:53 on 08 October 2013
this bloody stupid mayor has to. and no more of them..
 
Tony Blair, say's wrote
at 18:54:11 on 08 October 2013
Pity he has not got the vision to f*ck off, the people of salford don't want him, pity we car't have an app to make this labour council disappear
 
brianfkirkham wrote
at 18:53:59 on 08 October 2013
Mike..that was a joke wasn't it? Apologies I didn't dig the punchline!
 
Michael Felse wrote
at 16:49:25 on 08 October 2013
Clearly a Man with Vision - well done Mr Mayor.
 
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