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SALFORD DE LA SALLE COLLEGE SET FOR BULLDOZERS
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Star date: 3rd October 2013 LOCALLY LISTED DE LA SALLE DOOMED FOR 54 HOUSES De la Salle College, a `designated heritage asset' and `locally listed' building, is set to have its death warrant issued today when Salford Council's planning panel meets to approve outline planning permission for up to 54 three and four bedroom houses on the 2.74 acre site. The Weaste Lane housing scheme would normally be subject to 20% affordable housing conditions but the Council is set to waive this too. Full details here…
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De La Salle College on Weaste Lane, where Tony Wilson got his education, is set to be bulldozed when Salford Council planning panel meets today to approve an outline planning application for up to 54 three and four bedroom houses on the site. The building was latterly part of Salford City College, hosting courses in beauty and catering, and is locally listed as a `designated heritage asset'. But, according to the planning application it "was not considered by the city's conservation officer of sufficient value to warrant listed building consent". De La Salle College will now join The Willows as a pile of rubble, with the character of Weaste changing forever. Meanwhile, Buile Hill mansion in the park opposite is still rotting away with little prospect in sight. If approved by the planning panel today, De La Salle will be replaced by up to 54 three and four bedroom houses, which the planning report states will not be `viable' unless Salford Council waives its policy for 20% affordable housing on the proposed site – even though one of the identified `objectives' for the Willows area is "to ensure the provision of affordable housing provision". The Council's `property consultants' have "agreed that the limit of value within the scheme could not deliver all aspects of mitigation normally sought by the City Council in terms of affordable housing, planning obligations, and education contributions" - and have concluded that contributions towards education are more important than towards affordable housing… "In the first instance the available monies should be directed towards education mitigation as the proposed 63 development would result in a material increase in the demand for primary school place" the planning report states "and that within this location contributions towards primary school places are a priority". Within walking distance of De La Salle, Tootal Drive Primary school has been bulldozed, while Hope High School is currently being demolished. All Hallows school next door is moving to a new site and is also set to be bulldozed. Salford Council closed down and demolished Tootal Drive Primary, together with Langworthy Road and Seedley primary schools, stating there were too many surplus places. Now, with a shortage of places, it is seeking the `Kiddie Bedroom Tax' on new houses (see previous Salford Star article - click here) as a priority over affordable housing obligations. The planning applicant, De La Salle Trust (no reference to what this is anywhere), apparently can't afford both the education contributions and affordable housing contributions, plus other `Section 106' payments – and will only "contribute a maximum of £440,000", despite up to 54 three and four bedroom houses going up on the site, with a conservative value approaching £12million. So, after a `viability assessment' a mere £210,000 will go towards affordable housing provision, instead of whatever the value of 20% affordable housing should be. Which no-one seems to know. Even though the Council is set to approve the outline application… "it's impossible to work out what it might be as an amount of money as it would be a number of units based on the requirement in the policy for 20% affordable units (which doesn't mean though that on 50 dwellings that 10 would be affordable)" a planning officer told the Salford Star. Confusing? You bet! Indeed, all over the city (and nationally), planning obligations for affordable housing are being ripped up due to `viability' reasons, just when Salford – with its huge housing waiting list and Bedroom Tax victims - needs it most. More of this to follow… In the meantime, De La Salle is set to join The Willows, Hope High and Tootal Drive Primary School as old Weaste gets bulldozed.
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Bernard Hesford wrote
at 19:01:58 on 28 December 2021 |
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| Reading these posts is like viewing two sides of a coin - heads you win, tails you lose - great or terrible. I'm on the great side of the coin. It puzzles me how people have such different views & experiences ... and how that comes about. I guess it's down to whether you are of a victim mentality or a "make it happen" mentality, lazy or a worker, cautiously disciplined or generally "naughty". I was never unduly punished although caned once by Bro Claude for getting a spare mars bar through the dinner hall window !! I avoided free mars bars after that - learnt my Latin too although got my sideburns severely pulled by Tingy for doing other people's Latin homework for a few pence. Lessons learnt and then adhered to. Great memories - get over it folks, it was a great school depending on how "you played it". |
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Dave Kirkham wrote
at 00:17:23 on 27 July 2021 |
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| Did the prep 60-64, then DLS proper til 71. Loved every day despite getting the cane. Gave me a great start to adulthood and to real life. Played rugby for the Old Boys despite being a wimp at school. Played college basketball in America as an exchange student during Uni years. Recently met up with John Camilleri and all Whatsapped all the ex pupils he is still in touch with. Would love to get in touch with anyone who remembers me. |
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Jackiecollett wrote
at 17:43:56 on 14 January 2019 |
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| In reply to Dave Berry.
Peter Cowgill is now CEO of JD. Sports. Among other companies. |
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Jackie collett wrote
at 08:25:32 on 14 January 2019 |
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| I attended the school opposite delaselle. The boys there always seemed so well off. I used to go in the local shop, Suttons. I would be spending a penny on sweets, lucky me.
The boys from the posh school would be spending two shillings.
I also went to Tootal Drive Primary, which has also been demolished.
I was born in 1947. Played regularly in Bule Hill Park,
Well is the world a better place now? |
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Ex De La Salle Inmate wrote
at 10:48:40 on 23 September 2018 |
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| I was sentenced to seven years at this place. The 'world is a prison in which there are many wards and dungeons' (Hamlet) - DLS being one of the worst. Amazing what the pervert teachers could get away with behind closed doors. Guess how you create a torturer out of Mr Teacher ... you turture Mr Teacher first! A classic simple formula. All that Catholic nonsense about heaven and hell wormed its way into Mr Teacher's tiny brain. There were some exceptions - some nice teachers: Father Kevin (a lovely man); Kevin Conroy (an intellectual who was very fond of the boys - and, was always fond in a correct way); Saunders (German) the only other intellectual amongst the teaching staff in the whole place. Not bad, two diamonds amongst rubble! |
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Brian Williams wrote
at 20:06:34 on 15 September 2018 |
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| I was beaten daily by the Christian Brothers (perverts) for my academic failings. Yes, particularly in Latin. Particularly by the (I suspect, homosexual paedophile) Vincent Gibbs. My parents ran a pub and I was required to work until midnight cleaning glasses and moving stock. Little time for homework. Is it possible to file historical abuse against these brainless teachers. Liam McMamanus resorts to appeals to his acqaintance with a Professor and doctor (with letters after their name) to build credibility for his casual dismissal of the perverted abuse. Sincerely, B Williams (PhD, MA, BA, PGCE, OBE) |
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Liam McManus wrote
at 12:53:35 on 10 April 2018 |
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| Last weekend I met up with Professor John Pyle CBE FRS and Dr Barry Cockcroft CBE. We all went through the prep and senior school, 1957-1970. The three of us had not been together since John’s wedding in 1979 and unfortunately Jim Farringdon was missing from the group. We reflected on our school days and on the whole had enjoyed the De La Salle experience particularly the sport, ( rugby, cross country running, golf and climbing). Not being overaly academic, starting in 1b, I found entering the senior school a shock to the system where you were punished for you academic failings, particularly in Latin. Some of the teachers were hard on punishment but my experience was that this was when you stepped out of line. I agree with X.D.L.S that the real bullies were in the pupil mass. I’m not sorry to see the buildings go as they had no merit in my opinion but I’m sorry that the name has been lost and also that I have lost contact with nearly all the pupils that made my school experience an enjoyable one. De La Salle gave me a good start in life with values I still hold today. |
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Brian F Kirkham wrote
at 06:41:57 on 09 April 2018 |
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| There is a reason for the buildings demise. Pendleton College got what it wanted. The media city Futureskills building was the final piece of the sixth form jigsaw, after it was announced All hallows was getting a sixth form and moving lock stock and barrel to Hope High's old site .(Hope High being turned into the church/school Oasis academy). I'd just left there for Salford College of FE (Now Salford College) before the rumour mill kicked in - you want a traditional sixth form ed ? Stay at school or head for Pendleton , Eccles or Worsley...for thats the choice you have. |
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Peter Thornton wrote
at 09:42:04 on 08 April 2018 |
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| Ashes to ashes. Glad to see that all of the atoms of the abusive concentration camp known as De La Salle (Salford) have been spat back into the indifferent universe that spawned this evil hell. Let’s hope that the Catholic Church in Ireland and the UK generally continues to decline and then die! |
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X.D.L.S. Pupil wrote
at 19:42:20 on 08 August 2017 |
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| Rev Kev (chaplain); Bro Chris (German); Fat Fred (French); Bro Ste (French/Religion); Mr. ("Jack") Russell; Big Mick (English); Kev Conroy (history/music); Joe and John Rabbit; Bro Hil (head). Discos with the Adelphi crowd. Mixed memories, and as I recall the real bullies were from among the kids (you know who you are...), not the teachers. |
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dave berry wrote
at 07:28:25 on 13 February 2017 |
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| Anybody know an old friend of mine Peter Cowgill went to del la sale in the 60`s
please pass my email on
thanks |
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Andy Bell wrote
at 08:11:37 on 29 December 2016 |
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| Strange how those with pleasant memories of De La Salle seem to have had a brain-bypass in terms of beig unnable to recall the daily abuse of the boys who attended. The 'holy' brothers were (most - but not all of them) violent perverts. Boys who were less academically gifted were beaten daily for 'sins' such as not being able to learn (e.g.) the pluperfect of the Latin verb 'portare'. If you want to see the Catholic Church in all its nasty perversity, just go to youtube and key in the words 'Christopher Hitchens - Mother Teresa'. What he had to say about this 'Hell's Angel' should put you off Catholicism (and all its works and pomps!) forever. |
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John Barleycorn wrote
at 12:03:56 on 09 November 2016 |
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| I was at the prep. in the late 60s, early 70s. A very violent place, and that was just the Christian Brothers. |
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Mike Vose wrote
at 16:47:55 on 31 October 2016 |
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| Bloody good riddance. 1966-71.
Vile and abusive place. |
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Ken Bryan wrote
at 17:12:29 on 30 October 2016 |
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| I was a prep school boarder 1948/49. Bro Lewis known as Joe, was our housemaster. A kindly man, but that couldn't be said of Bro Richards. A boy called Edmonds was head of house . Any one remember these names? |
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Nick Wood wrote
at 12:58:26 on 07 October 2016 |
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| Was at De La Salle from 1968, with 4 years at the prep. school, until 1979, when I went on to Manchester University to study Dentistry.
Headmaster at the prep. Was Bro. Peter, at the college, Bro. Hillary, then Bro. Alexander.
On the whole I thoroughly enjoyed my schooldays at DLS & was sad to hear of its closure & subsequent demolition. |
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Andy Palmer wrote
at 07:51:10 on 14 October 2015 |
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| So very sad to see this amazing school brought to a pile of rubble. In my Dad's words : '"It was my life" |
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Gordon Simpson wrote
at 15:58:25 on 24 May 2015 |
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| 1947- 1950 started in Bro Finbar's class, over Bro Constantines woodwork room. There was a biplane fusalarge on wheels with engine, by the cricket nets below the old hall. Some 28 boarders were housed in the old hall. I was the first person to go to De La Salle, on mechanised transport. A BSA B32 motorbike
In 1984, I was passing the college, and saw the playground gates open. I drove into the playground, as I was in my Rolls Royce Cloud series 2. Just to claim that I had been there in a Rolls Royce. |
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chris byrne wrote
at 17:20:16 on 10 May 2015 |
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| Attended school from 1958-1966,I think when brother Colombus headmaster.Went on to attend Exeter University, where graduated BSc in chemistry
Great school, great memories. So sorry to see demolished without getting chance to capture memories though b/w photos of school inside and out.
Some great teachers, others not so.
Anybody remember brother Constantine, woodworking teacher-what a character. Flying chisels et al |
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Peter Bretnall wrote
at 07:30:45 on 03 June 2014 |
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| So sad to hear it may be demolished. Spent five enjoyable years there from 1953-1958. Fond memories of Garden Parties, broken clock in Main Hall, walking to playing fields at Lancaster Road. Singing in quoir at Free Trade Hall, trip to London for John the Baptist De La Salle anniversary at Westminster Cathedral and many other memories. |
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Colin Chambers wrote
at 20:28:32 on 17 April 2014 |
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| Went to school at both the Prep School and the College, and my wife worked there when it was the Hairdressing College. It is a crying shame what has been done to this area in the name of progress, including the demolition of All Souls R.C. Church.
Former Eccles Resident and proud of it. |
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Phil Hogan wrote
at 19:33:59 on 03 October 2013 |
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| Did all my adult learning there and got all my computer qualifications, Such a nice building and great memories, Hope they change their minds. |
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Paul Gerrard wrote
at 19:33:54 on 03 October 2013 |
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| Sorry to see the old building go, I worked there for 6 years after Pendleton and DLS amalgamated in 1998. It was a great building with character but difficult to adapt to modern educational purposes, particularly the lack of disabled access - I think we counted 13 different levels across the site, we discussed internal lifts, external lifts, everything, nothing would do the job fully. The Star is quite right to point out the educational retreat that is going on in Weaste, we saw the same thing in the 1990s with Ordsall (lost the FE college, lost the high school, children travelling all the way to Buile Hill etc). And yet again the Council have the wool pulled over their eyes by developers and abandon the 20% quota of affordable housing. Nothing - as usual - for young couples on Weaste Lane or Liverpool Street. Same old same old. |
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