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Star date: 19th March 2012

A Salford Star Exclusive

SALFORD QUAYS BLUE CRANES TO BE DE-LISTED PAVING WAY FOR DEMOLITION

`What none of the Council reports on the cranes state is that there is £734,000 funding put aside and ring fenced to sort the cranes out…'

Tomorrow, 20th March, a Salford Council report to the Lead Member for Planning, Councillor Derek Antrobus, will recommend a new Local List of Heritage Assets for Salford which will exclude the formally listed blue cranes at Salford Quays.

The new List was drawn up by the Heritage Working Group, chaired by the Heritage Champion, and will be put out for public consultation over the next few months. Another building, also de-listed, was the Langworthy Hotel, which is now a pile of rubble on Langworthy Road.

Full story here…


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The blue cargo cranes at Salford Quays were described by a Salford Council report back in 2007 as an "important local landmark" that "represent an important link with the heritage and history of Salford Quays".

They were Grade A listed on Salford's Local List of Buildings Structures and Features of Archaeological, Architectural or Historic Interest. Now there is a move to de-list them, paving the way for their demolition.

A report to the Lead Member for Planning, Councillor Derek Antrobus, tomorrow, (20th March) will recommend a new Local List of Heritage Assets for Salford which will exclude the blue cranes. The List was drawn up last May by the Heritage Working Group (whatever that might be), chaired by the `Heritage Champion' (whoever that might be), and will be put out to public consultation following the meeting. 

The cargo cranes - operational on Dock 6 from 1966 and moved to their current site in 1988 - have been under threat for the last five years. Salford Council has consistently stated that they couldn't be maintained in their current location because Metrolink power cables made the erection of scaffolding impossible.

In 2007 the Council admitted neglect - "There is clear evidence of the lack of maintenance by the city over the period of time that the cranes have been located in their current position" – and considered scrapping the cranes altogether, or keeping one and scrapping the other, but they were considered too important a landmark, so temporary measures were put in place.

In 2010 the Council considered moving them to near the Lowry Outlet Mall but considered they would ruin the view and "increase the sense of clutter" (see here). It was decided, instead, to move the cranes to the roundabout at the end of the M602 as part of the infamous £3million road tart up for MediaCityUK (see here) – and the North West Development Agency even paid £75,000 for special plinths to hold them.

Back in February this year, a Council report looked at five Options for the cargo cranes, which included refurbishing, painting, moving or restoring them, and concluded that there would be a "significant funding requirement" in the range of £648,500 to £982,000, plus maintenance costs of £100,000 over 12 years. Demolition would cost only £78,233 and putting the decision off for another 12 months with a temporary coating would cost £40-60,000.

The cross party Sustainable Regeneration Scrutiny Committee recommended in February that the cranes "be taken down and removed in order for their condition to be assessed". But once the cranes are taken down and removed it's highly unlikely they will ever return.

What none of the Council reports on the cranes state is that there is £734,000 funding put aside and ring fenced to sort the cranes out.

Meanwhile, the first step towards the cranes destruction will happen at tomorrow's meeting of the Lead Member for Planning when the new catalogue of locally listed `heritage assets' will be approved – without the blue cargo cranes…

* The report to Planning states that "Local Listing is a means for a local community to decide what it is in their area that they would like recognised as a 'local heritage asset' and therefore worthy of some degree of protection through the planning system. It therefore provides clarity as to where these heritage assets are located and what it is about them that is worth considering."


* * The list doesn't include the formerly included Langworthy Hotel, now reduced to rubble on Langworthy Road (see here).

*** The full list as it is being recommended can be seen by clicking here and clicking on Item 4a Appendix.

ian slade wrote
at 2:43:14 PM on Friday, June 21, 2013
as the company called Peel holdings been asked to donate any land they have over on th trafford wharf side of the dock's? Manchester council have just had their MOSI saved! surely an addition to their ittinery or stock of museum artifact's these Salford skyline goodie's could be saved?
 
mike scantlebury wrote
at 8:18:08 AM on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
ordsall trust has a lottery grant to talk to people about the history and herititage of Salford. If anyone has memories of the cranes and the docks, we would like to talk to you. Please get in Touch...
 
johnathan thomason wrote
at 8:17:50 AM on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Chris Maher has a friend with a painting company who offered to paint the cranes for free, last year. Salford council never replied.
 
john elliott wrote
at 8:17:43 AM on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Why can't the metro-link pay towards the up keep, so the line doesn't have to close.
 
johnathan thomason wrote
at 8:17:26 AM on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Use the cranes in a signature restaurant at the quays, to make the cranes earn their keep.
 
colin honeybourne wrote
at 8:20:03 PM on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I think its a disgrace what there doing to our heritage ...my great grandfather died working on them docks and probably more families have lost loved ones on there and we should keep something to.remind us of them. Also I passed the old monk house near Eccles and was saddened to see it fence off and fallen to ruins.....let's stand for our heritage as I'm guessing the council are not from this great city we call Salford
 
Nachtschlepper wrote
at 1:20:38 PM on Sunday, April 1, 2012
It is absolutely crystal clear what our so called Council thinks of Salford. They are ashamed of it's past. Most other parts of the country are rightly proud of their history & heritage, you only need to look across the Irwell at the Urbis Museum to see how Manchester & Mancunians are proud to be known as the world's first industrialised city. I'd be willing to bet that not one Salford councillor knows very much about the City's past & heritage, but then that wouldn't make Peel Holdings any money would it.
 
don draper wrote
at 1:55:55 AM on Sunday, April 1, 2012
touch them cranes at your peril think again or you will incur the stevodore's curse
 
caroline wrote
at 1:58:11 PM on Tuesday, March 20, 2012
mary..for once i agree..read bindloss.star has helped stopped the developers.. Salford city etc,,will not undo the harm they have done.this is part of heritage..do they give a dam..no..we have 17 cen pic of area.wish to give .but they cannot be trusted.Star has copy..So they bully etc for site..We care..my dad goes local pub in his late 80..We need surrport..Who will..help..
 
Amanda Bickerton wrote
at 8:45:44 AM on Tuesday, March 20, 2012
The leader of the council has pointed out on more than one occasion that Salford "is not a working class theme park". That is not an excuse to destroy the proud industrial heritage of the city. Salford was an industrial powerhouse. Its culture was working class. Those cranes are powerful icons which encapsulate the history of the dock area, which is now a bleak, characterless Legoland with the past airbrushed out, along with the history of the people who worked there. History is not just about royalty and the rich - history is about the lives of communities through time, and community is the golden thread running through working class history. The plan to demolish the cranes while pumping money into Media City and showing the royals how shiny it all is an affront to the past, present and future residents of Salford. Once they have been hocked for the scrap value they are gone for good and the memory of those who lived, fought, loved and worked to make our city will be scorned yet more.
 
Em3 wrote
at 5:15:34 AM on Tuesday, March 20, 2012
We can't continue to just accept these assaults on our heritage as FFS suggests. Older people and Disabled people of Salford have human RIGHTS which should be paid for by our massive taxes and national insurance contributions. But we ALL also have a right to preserve our industrial history which was paid for by the blood and sweat of our forebears. Virtually every day now on BBC radio - some reference is made to the docks + the wealth of working class history and culture they still (just about) embrace. Demolish everything old - lets all live in a concrete, cultureless wilderness.
 
Winston Smith wrote
at 5:15:27 AM on Tuesday, March 20, 2012
If Salford Council were in charge of Athens, they'd have demolished the acropolis and replaced it with a Peel-built museum where you could go and see a picture of the acropolis. They haven't got a bloody clue.
 
stephen kingston wrote
at 8:52:15 AM on Monday, March 19, 2012
See FFS comment below... I take your point but we're not really `Where we are, where we are' - you're forgetting about the £10million secret Media City fund that Salford Council has stashed away. And if you look at all the money they have spent on pseudo heritage projects at Salford Quays I think you may look at this in a slightly different way. Salford Council argues that `capital' funding cannot be transfered to support services so the `old and vulnerable' won't be helped by not spending this money on the cranes - it will just go to other Media City/Quays `capital' projects probably...
 
FFS wrote
at 8:45:27 AM on Monday, March 19, 2012
Maybe the £734k can be better spent in the City on services for the disabled or elderly that are having to be cut due to the CONDEM government. It would be nice to keep the cranes but I'd rather ensure vunerable people are supported rather than ensure we keep a few cranes. Yes the council should have maintained them better, but they haven't and we are where we are - saying what they should have done doesn't really help the cause now. Budgets are being cut left, right & centre due to this government and unfortunately heritage is now a luxury. If people are really interested in retaining the cranes they need to start taking some action & begin fundraising to find the money to keep them.
 
mary ferrer wrote
at 6:55:05 AM on Monday, March 19, 2012
Salford council and heritage don't work together. This council has NO respect for the heritage of this city. Just look around you and you can see what they do to our buildings of interest. They own buildings that are locally and nationally listed and just let them fall into decay. They owned the Langworthy hotel bought it with money for the regeneration of Langworthy and what did they do with it, left it too rot. Just walk over into Buile Hill Park and we have the Mansion house, a grade 2 listed Charles Barry building.It was closed in 2000 and 4 years this June plans were passed to turn it into a hotel,4 years down the line nothing has happened and it looks like nothing will as the developers are, shall we say finding it a bit hard to fine the cash,they have had 4 years but never mine,this council,who own the building will leave it as it is till it too has to be pulled down because they don't care what happens to OUR heritage. And we let them. I just hope people put up a fight for this latest Crime to our heritage. If they do remove them we then need to know what they are going to do with them and also what the council intened to do with the £734.000 they have ring fenced.Now that should be very interesting.
 
Lee Craven MBE wrote
at 6:54:16 AM on Monday, March 19, 2012
What is it With this Labour Run City, Wanting to demolish yet again a piece of Salford's History, Everywhere you look Historic Buildings are going, Well what an utter disgrace, This City Council should hang their heads in Shame.
 
Tyzac wrote
at 6:54:01 AM on Monday, March 19, 2012
We really should all be questioning the ability , or lack of ablity , of the Swinton Cretins to ever get anything right in this dreadful , living -hell Dead city . All the cretins involved in this latest EXAMPLE OF GROSS INEPTITUDE must be sacked .
 
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