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MEMORIES OF LIVING IN ‘DIS-GRACELAND’ BURY NEW ROAD
 

Star date: 21st March 2021

GRADE II LISTED DEMOLISHED HOUSES IN SALFORD HAD SO MANY MEMORIES

This week, the Salford Star reported on the demolition of two Grade II listed buildings on the corner of Bury New Road and Vine Street, which drew a lot of comments, including some quite prolific memories from Star reader, Chrissie McBride, who remembers living in 'Dis-Graceland' for two periods in the 80s and 90s when the houses were filled with mad and incredible characters.

This is Chrissie's story, which we think will ring bells with anyone who knew the place or who has lived in a similar environment.

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Chrissie McBride's Flat 463 Bury New Road Salford Chrissie McBride's Flat 463 Bury New Road Salford Chrissie McBride's Flat 463 Bury New Road Salford
Chrissie McBride's Flat 463 Bury New Road Salford Chrissie McBride's Flat 463 Bury New Road Salford Chrissie McBride's Flat 463 Bury New Road Salford
Chrissie McBride's Flat 463 Bury New Road Salford Chrissie McBride's Flat 463 Bury New Road Salford
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I was born in Salford, and although now retired in Occitanie, France, I still return regularly and keep up with current events in my old and beloved city and will be returning to roost this year. 
 
Therefore, I was saddened to see the article describing the demolition of 463/465, Bury New Road. I lived in a huge old ground floor flat, at 465, for three years during the '80s when I was a student at Prestwich Hospital, as it was then called. The flats were very cheap, about £25 per week, so, ideal for students, and quite a lot of future nurses and doctors lived in the two houses at varying times.

We used to have theme evenings, where someone would cook a huge casserole or curry, and we'd dress as hippies, or 1920s flappers, but the best were the 'Incredibly Bad Taste' evenings, which inevitably gave a lot of scope as to attire.

I remember the long term residents - a lovely lady called Miss PW who had been a worker in the colonial services in the Far East, and would sit in the (occasional) sunshine, at the side door on Vine Street, in an old wicker chair, regaling me with stories of her wild oriental youth.

Then there was H who sold used cars, (extremely used cars) and used to keep them all in the garden at the front of the house until most of them disintegrated with rust. Then later, there was an elderly Irish gentleman who pushed around an old pram carrying his milk and bread, and who wore a wig with the attachment wire rusting at the front on his forehead.

My bedroom had a huge mural, a Caribbean sunset, painted by the previous tenant, right across the biggest wall. A bit garish, but it helped to hide the damp patches. The carpets throughout the building were all the same, huge Columbus-type galleons on a lurid orange sea. There were little doors on corridors and stairs, which led up narrow staircases and ended nowhere, and a scary old cellar filled with furniture which looked as though someone had lived there then suddenly abandoned the place, sometime before World War Two.

I had a tiny kitchen you could barely squeeze one person into, and a contrasting huge bathroom like a ballroom, with a lonely sink and toilet in one corner and a huge, pink, scallop-shaped bath in the other. Having a bath from September to May was akin to venturing into a frozen Siberian wilderness.

The wind would whistle, (nay, blow a whole Mistral!) through the draughty windows and under the doors, and in cold winters, ice would form inside the windows. My American friend said that it was like one of those old brownstone New York houses, and that it reminded him of home. He used to call it 'The Pink Palace', after the old New York house in the film, Sophie's Choice. My other friends were more irreverent and called it Dis-Graceland. But they were great years. In 1985 I finally bought a small house, but it was not the same. I left the flat to my son, who stayed there until he joined the WRP then went and joined the revolution in London.

I then lived in France and Italy for 12 years, and when I decided to return home, in 1997, I again rented a first floor flat at 465, above my old one. Nothing, except for the people, had changed very much- still the same tarnished vase of plastic flowers on the stairhead from 1983.The galleon carpets still there, on their never ending voyage.

This time, I had a massive bedroom which could have seated all the members of the House of Commons on a fair attendance day, but a close-the-door-or- you-can't- get-in, bathroom. Next door, 463, had already then been closed down, and there was always afterwards a feeling that this would happen to lovely 465. In the meantime, long skirted and shawled Balkan ladies with lots of children and come and go males began camping out at the back of 463, cooking on fires outside.

It was a place then to welcome my family and we spent Christmases there with every bit of heating turned on full, but the atmosphere was so absolutely Victorian, Dickensian and authentic. I used to alternate sleeping patterns, depending on whether my friend upstairs was playing his rock guitar, or the man downstairs was recording drum bass beats for rap songs, when the whole house shook. 

Friday evenings were busy with the Jewish community arriving at the synagogue across Vine Street, with an animated buzz of conversation on arrival, and after prayers.

However, again, it was a happy time, until we had to admit that the writing was well and truly on the wall, when several mini Niagara Falls burst in and cascaded down the majestic staircase, and we began to see grey fat and sleek rats deserting the cellars, heading for the Landslide and the Irwell, where it was probably less damp. We were promised that "Someone's coming to fix the roof tomorrow", but tomorrow...

The galleon carpets were removed after the flood and somehow it was never the same. Then in late 2005, we all received an impersonal badly-typed letter from the agents to be out within about six weeks. I was fortunate to find another magic house apartment on Cavendish Road, very similar, same owner, another story. I watched the deterioration of my old home with sadness and curiosity, as the grapevine predicted that it would be refurbished, or become 21st Century flats, or a parking lot, or a hotel or mini market.

Apparently, the original building was the Portuguese Consul's residence, then became a private school; then after the 1939-45 War, was, like many other buildings in Salford and Manchester, converted hastily into flats.

463/465, Bury New Road was rundown, a bit squalid, neglected by the owner, despite protests from tenants and citizens, but nevertheless a magic place to live. Some of the best years of my life. How sad that it's gone. As Joni Mitchell sang in one of her songs, 'History falls to parking lots and shopping malls'...


Words by Chrissie McBride


Read the original Salford Star article on the demolitions - click here

Alisa Pepper wrote
at 18:31:52 on 01 May 2021
So sad to hear this I too lived in 465 bury new road,in the ground floor front flat, had my 21st there, happy memories
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Alice wrote
at 13:25:34 on 27 March 2021
I have already written about my vain attempt to get Alex Langsam maintain his property but I haven’t mention another failure of his. I must tell you this story because I still feel mad and sad whenever I look at a particular piece of land. Those of you who walk on Kersal Moor will have noticed the derelict piece of land that once housed the little Kersal Primary ( St Paul’s) school. You may even have attended this school. The school and land were acquired by Langsom who planned to build houses on the site. A petition by locals p, led by Bill Kitchingman, stopped that but Langsom held on to the land . I requested the Salford Council to acquire it so it could be brought into the Moor. I contacted Langsom and asked him to donate it as it could not be built on . I even sent him one of my books telling of the interesting history of the Moor. I did not get any reply. I then managed to obtain funds to turn the piece of land into an picnic area with tables and flower beds. The Friends of Kersal Moor and the then Councillor Harry Davis( a excellent Councillor sadly passed away ) supported me in this project. I failed to achieve anything so the land stays derelict with just sad heaps of bricks from the school days. The money obtained has been used for two more Moor benches and Incredible Edible planters on Moor Lane. I felt very sad about this because it would have been a nice amenity for Moor walkers and tired families traipsing along the Lane. I have lost in faith in the Council which has could have acquired that piece of land and even could have bought the old school . To me, there seems something wrong with a Council that allows people like Langsom to continue in his irresponsible ways and neglects the requests of its community. Salford Star has shown more concern for the community than the Council .
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Joan Davidson wrote
at 21:04:21 on 26 March 2021
This building was “ listed under the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 as amended for its special architectural or historic interest” so why wasn’t Langsam forced to look after it. Salford Council should have taken a leaf out of Manchester Council’s book.
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Debra Green wrote
at 14:24:22 on 22 March 2021
Why do councils allow these developers to get away with this, Langsam has a long history of doing this. He’s currently letting historic hotels all over the U.K. slide into rack and ruin, some of our most beautiful historic buildings. He also tried to dodge his tax. He is also the owner of pontins recently in the news for telling staff not to take bookings from travellers. Until the rules and law is changed to stop ppl like Langsam buying up properties and leaving them for years to rot, seemingly unfettered by any action by local councils. Langsam unsurprisingly is a Tory and registered to live in Austria - and trued to get classed as a non Dom for tax purposes, he failed - he also failed in his claim against his lawyers, he was defeated and took it to the court of appeal where he was again defeated. He has deep pockets for litigation but not to honour the planning permission he gains for properties, He sold the London road fire station after Manchester City council took him to court because he’d let it decline.
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Em3 wrote
at 15:09:03 on 21 March 2021
Great story. Shame developers aren't interested in preserving our beautiful historic buildings. Thanks for the colourful story
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