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SALFORD GRADE II LISTED BUILDINGS DEMOLISHED
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Star date: 17th March 2021 KERSAL LISTED PROPERTIES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE REFURBISHED BUT ARE NOW RUBBLE Two Grade II listed Victorian villas on the corner of Bury New Road and Vine Street have been demolished with workmen saying that the buildings had become too dangerous to save. The protected properties, dating from 1857, had planning permission only for them to be refurbished into flats. Local residents have complained to Salford Council for years about neglect from their owner allowing the buildings to fall into disrepair. Full details here...
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What were two grand Victorian three storey Grade II Listed adjoining villas last week are now piles of rubble, after a demolition that has shaken local residents. The properties - known as Leighton House and Moor End, 463-465 Bury New Road – were built around 1857 and were developed originally into 14 flats, before becoming empty and derelict over a decade ago. Since then, local residents have constantly complained to Salford City Council, both officially through East Salford Community Committee and individually by letters to local MPs and the City Mayor, that the building had been left in a state of disrepair by owner Alex Langsam, and urged an 'urgent works notice' to be applied. In 2019, the owner was given planning permission, by a Salford Council delegated decision, to convert the properties into twenty flats. The conversion was only to include the demolition and re-building of the rear part of both buildings, with alterations and repairs to the main roof. At the end of January, local residents believed that the back of the houses had collapsed but it seemed like it was just part of the ongoing work. However, this week they noticed that both of the whole structures had been demolished. Today workmen told the Salford Star that the properties had to be knocked down as they were too dangerous... So, as Salford loses yet more heritage, questions have to be asked...Did Salford Council make any significant intervention? Are the powers of councils to force property owners to look after listed buildings strong enough? Is there a will in this city to retain heritage assets?
Main photo by Louise Garman
Memories of Living in the Houses by Chrissie McBride - see here
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Beverley Davidson wrote
at 20:56:49 on 26 March 2021 |
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| By letting these buildings deteriorate so much Langsam has achieved here what he set out to do with London Road Fire Station, but fortunately didn’t manage. |
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Debra Green wrote
at 14:12:33 on 22 March 2021 |
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| Alex Langsam is a vile man, he did the same to Whitefield town hall, another listed building now s pile of rubble.
Councils have powers to thwart ppl like langsam from buying properties and leaving them to rot until they have to be pulled down but they seem to be hugely reluctant to use them, which makes one ask the question why?
Salford council have a dreadful track record of not protecting our history. They also demolished Hanover court thus denying hundreds of ppl a home, houses were supposed to be built on the site but years later it’s a wasteland of vegetation, fly tipping, rubbish and dog faeces.
Alex Langsam also owns the Brittania hotel chain which owns historical hotels like the Adelphi in Liverpool and the grand in Scarborough, which are not being properly looked after. He is taking in millions from govt housing asylum seekers in his hotels. Charging top dollar for sub standard accommodation and food. He could have afforded to carry out the plans he was given permission for same as in Whitefield but he prefers to ruin not renovate and our councils let him.
Interestingly I note his office on bury new road is now closed, worried about a brick through the window from angry local residents no doubt.
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Ste wrote
at 12:39:20 on 21 March 2021 |
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| Bought with no intention of restoring |
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Vince Cosgriff wrote
at 08:38:59 on 21 March 2021 |
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| No surprise at all. Alex Langsam has a reputation for it.
The only thing I'm grateful to him for is being able to afford a relatively cheap one bedroom flat at Moor End Court, Bury New Rd in 1973 which got me started on the property ladder. No doubt he plans to build similar flats at 463-465. |
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Mr H. Neil Johnson wrote
at 06:18:47 on 21 March 2021 |
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| "They had previously given in to Mr Langsom as he bought and demolished other impressive Victorian properties on Vine street and Bury New Road. In their place we now have dull basic blocks of flats and Mr Langsom has became a multi millionaire." - Been doing it for years - Unless there's a means of attaching the costs to profiteers like this - or a blanket refusal of 'all' planning applications by such people with a history of these acts to put them out of business - nothing will change |
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Brian Benham wrote
at 23:00:37 on 19 March 2021 |
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| A trip around the nearby Cliff Conseration Area will convince anyone that the Council have no interest in protecting or enhancing Salford's heritage assets. |
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Arnold Rimmer wrote
at 15:14:40 on 18 March 2021 |
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| If the building is listed the council could use section 47 of the listed buildings act to force someone to sell a listed building to the council but they have to first have sent a repair demand to them and wait months to see if they do the work before they can start CPO proceedings.
By the time the council would actually get to buy the building back, the building would be in a complete state and the council would have to pay for repairs.
They could also use section 54 where the council does the repairs and then bills the owner. I doubt the council would do this though when the owners are abroad as it's unlikely to be easily enforced when the owner can just ignore them. The council aren't allowed to attach the repair cost to the building either (they are in Wales though) so if the council repaired it, the owner could sell it without paying the bill. |
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at 12:09:25 on 18 March 2021 |
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| it seems to me that the problem here was caused by a property speculator whats it got to do with the council it is a private matter and the only person at fault here is the owner not the city council so put the blame where it belongs and shut up moaning tory arnolds supporters its what you voted for property over people . |
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Isabell Flynn wrote
at 02:02:27 on 18 March 2021 |
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| This is so sad that thay gets away with it |
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at 22:10:47 on 17 March 2021 |
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| Salford council do not want any heritage 14 at risk property in Salford 1 down 13 to go. |
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Bob Horrocks wrote
at 20:53:49 on 17 March 2021 |
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| Disgraceful.! they were beautiful buildings - I always wondered what was happening to them - I should have guessed they were owned by a property developer chasing the money- Lets see what his new planning application looks like ? |
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Payl Nyles wrote
at 20:12:41 on 17 March 2021 |
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| ITS THE COUNCILS AGENDA to place so many restrictions in the way that they get their way no matter what! So a thousand applications could have gone in to save it over the past 20/30/50 years, but now there should be one hell of a Court Case as a friend of mine was once told the very old Coach House on his land was totally his responsibility to maintain and he was not even allowed to park his care in it as there was a fire risk! |
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Salford Star wrote
at 19:18:10 on 17 March 2021 |
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| See Mark's comment below...No but lots of local musos, artists and photographers lived there inc Bryan Glancy, Paul Jones and Intastella |
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Alice wrote
at 19:17:17 on 17 March 2021 |
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| I am sad and angry about the news that these Victorian houses have been demolished. Some years ago I led an enquiry and protest about the Council’s neglect of these listed properties. I did this officially via the East Salford Community Committee and the Salford Planning Committee. We held discussions and the Council did ask Mr Langsom, the owner, to repair and make a decision on the futures of the properties. The Council would not purchase the houses because the cost of repairing the roof was too great . Mr Langsom eventually got planning permission for 20 flats providing the historic frontage and any other historic features were kept. This was at least 2 or 3 years ago. During this time the properties have deteriorated . I suspect the owner wanted this to happen. As for the Council I am sure they wanted the problem to go away with the building. They had previously given in to Mr Langsom as he bought and demolished other impressive Victorian properties on Vine street and Bury New Road. In their place we now have dull basic blocks of flats and Mr Langsom has became a multi millionaire. The importance of history is low on the agenda of the Council and they have poor awareness of public concern. I hope the last residents of the houses will write and remind us of the value of the inner accommodation. I feel my democratic effort and that also of the my colleagues was wasted because the influence of a moneyed developer was a stronger pull. If anyone thinks I am making a fuss about something unimportant please go and look at Lancaster House and at Thorncliffe , both Victorian villas on Vine street, which have missed the creedy hands of developers. You will see Victorian splendour ....part of Salford’s history. |
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Darren loves Warburton bread and Born Salford. wrote
at 18:50:10 on 17 March 2021 |
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| Next to go is the grade 2 listed crescent pub. Chinese business owners i think bought it and also the land at the back for £325,000 are letting it rot so it's deemed unsafe and too costly to do up so eventually it will get bulldozed and then the land will be yet another big high-rise block of expansive flats. Progress. |
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Mark wrote
at 18:21:26 on 17 March 2021 |
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| Are those the ones that John Cooper Clarke used to live in as a kid ? |
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