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SENIOR SALFORD COUNCILLOR PETER CONNOR PASSES AWAY
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Star date: 17th December 2019 KERSAL COUNCILLOR PETER CONNOR PASSES AWAY "I get upset when Salford people get affected..." Veteran Salford councillor, Peter Connor, who represented the Kersal ward, has passed away after an eventful time in some of the top Council roles, carrying out some of the Council's most controversial policies, before becoming Ceremonial Mayor. The flag at Salford City Council Civic centre flew at half mast yesterday as a mark of respect. Full details here...
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Councillor Peter Connor certainly cut a controversial figure during his time as a Labour Party councillor, representing the Kersal ward since 1990. As Lead Member for Community and Social Services in 1999, Lead Member for Housing in 2003 and Assistant Mayor for Adult Services in 2012, he oversaw some major unpopular policies but always believed he was doing the right thing. As Lead Member for Housing, Peter Connor was in charge of much of the regeneration of Salford's old areas, which led to the demolition of hundreds of houses, usually against the wishes of the community. As Assistant Mayor for Adult Services he drove cuts to mental health drop-in services and homelessness facilities in the city, which saw protests aimed at himself. However, Peter Connor would usually stand his ground and argue for what he believed to be the right course of action. A few years ago Peter Connor was made Ceremonial Mayor of Salford, a role which he particularly enjoyed, making links with the community from which he came and was very much a part of. While the Salford Star had many run-ins with Peter Connor over his policies, he was always willing to explain his stance and was an affable personality. As recently as two months ago, he was interviewed by the Salford Star, standing up for market traders at Salford Precinct... "I get upset when Salford people get affected, and these traders are Salford people" he said "I feel that this is contempt for Salford people. I've known the market traders for quite a few decades, from the old markets, and I know the tremendous work that they've done to make not just the markets but that shopping centre a success. "They were involved in saving the Precinct post office and getting the road closed to facilitate the bus routes to try and get people to walk through the shopping centre over to Tesco, plus other issues and campaigns" he added "Everything they've done has been in the interests of the Salford community because they're the ones that matter." Peter Connor was an old style Labour councillor who also believed everything he did was 'in the interests of the Salford community'...because, unlike many of the new councillors, he was actually from that community and these were 'his people'. Peter Connor will be sadly missed within the Salford political landscape.
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Felsey wrote
at 16:43:11 on 02 January 2020 |
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| I keep hearing a lot about Salford Pathfinder and demand a 2020 public Enquiry to clear the air. Salford must not remain tarnished by suggestions of social cleansing. If people suffered they must be compensated. People deserve to know the truth. |
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Truth hurts wrote
at 07:37:47 on 02 January 2020 |
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| Mr.Rayofsunshine
Time is the great leveller and when the social historians dig into the "Pathfinder" scheme their conclusions will no doubt see that it was an ill thought out programme driven by mendacious propaganda propergated by local councils and their business partners. Almost simultaneously, the district valuers were saying that the area was not desirable while the recently erected holdings of the developers declared this is the place to live. I presume Janus is the God of district valuers and Salford council ?
Mr.Rayofsunshine, don't deviate from the party line least you stumble into the real world.Most councils are closer to T.dan Smith than Nye Bevan! |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 06:05:04 on 02 January 2020 |
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| Wrote,over time the value of individual properties and the relative desirability of an area,can vary widely. Market forces,not malign councillors,explains this phenomenon! |
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wrote
at 09:01:56 on 01 January 2020 |
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| Connor will be remembered as one of the main people responsible for what I am sure will be remembered as the social cleansing of Salford. If you look round Salford you will see building sites and advertising boards claiming how desirable areas are. Yet a few years back people were being cleared out of the areas for next to nothing after being told that the same areas were worthless. |
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Rossi wrote
at 18:46:26 on 28 December 2019 |
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| You're a free floating leftist, dedicated to taking on the right ... Stop talking a melodramatic load of old nonce-meat, Ray, if you had a brain, then potentially you'd be dangerous. Thankfully you are bereft of a brain. How pray tell, are you dedicated to taking on the right? Is it on here, where you wage an unremitting guerrilla war against the forces of the right, with your mind-numbing comments, or is it somewhere else? Are you a modern day version of Tariq Ali and his street fighting years? Personally I see you as more of a Wolfie Smith leading his motley band of the Tooting People's Liberation Front, only in your case, your motley crew of freedom fighters is comprised entirely of you. You're a sad case, Ray. I hope that things get better for you, I really do. Happy New Year my fellow Salfordians. Peace and good will to all. Even Ray. Rossi, Over & Out ... |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 07:19:29 on 27 December 2019 |
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| Cody,whilst I agree with you that Labour's poor performance cannot solely be blamed on a hostile media,despite the obvious establishment originated and steered plot against Corbyn ! Many explanations for a Tory Victory have been proffered;was Labour too left wing;were voters fearful of higher taxes or is the case that the modern working class,despite being shafted on a day-to-day basis by the ruling class,is quite right wing in its politics-queen,country and hostile to immigration!
I'd be interested in hearing your take,Cody,on why
the Working Class has lost faith in Labour? In what sense,Cody,has Labour "betrayed the working class"?
One line being peddled by both pundits and bankrupt Blairites is that Labour was insufficiently patriotic on a national level and lacked "the pride" that traditional working class have for the area that they live and work in?
Patriotism/pride can only take you so far- it certainly won't pay the rent! Could it be that to many traditional Labour Voters,the myth of British Superiority is stronger than the pull of class solidarity/Socialism?
Best wishes for the New Year,Cody,Ray the red! |
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Bob the regular wrote
at 09:16:58 on 25 December 2019 |
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| Well Ray , thank you very much for your kind proposal that this gagging order should, in principle, be lifted. The thing is it takes two to tango, and Mr Singh would of course have to agree to this dislosure as well, otherwise it would be a non starter. It will be put to him. Should he agree, then I give you my solemn word that I would not use it to "beat up the Council". I believe it would be a simple case of Res ipsa locoteur, The facts will speak for themselves. I agree that I am a grumpy malcontent, that should be obvious to all, but I am not a rightwing one.I am as malcontent with our Tory government as I am with our labour council, and thoroughly pissed of with a lot of things that are wrong with our city and our country. My life is pretty much OK, I have all I need, but there again, my needs are small, but day after day, I see ordinary people around me getting shit on , and robbed all the time, good people being bullied by the government council, utility companies , housing providers, the list is endless, and it makes me angry and sad. We should all work together and try and help one another in whatever way we can, and with that ,Ray old chum,I wish you, your family, the editor ,Rossi, Darren and all the readers a nice Christmas and a happy new year. |
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Cody wrote
at 09:16:11 on 25 December 2019 |
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| ”I'm a free floating leftist dedicated to taking on the right!” Yeh, and labelling everyone who disagrees with you as a ‘Tory’, among other things. I believe that’s one of the reasons Labour lost the election, David Badiel said on election night that on Twitter whenever someone criticised Labour or Corbyn 20 other Labour supporters would jump in a say “Fuck off and join the Tories!” While I agree they have a right to say that it’s not conducive to debate, I’ve seen it happen on here and elsewhere too. As for RLB as opposition leader, she’s a Corbynite and he and his political ideas were rejected by a sizeable amount of the electorate. To run on the same platform with a different face will result in the same losses. The people have spoken, listen to them instead of insulting them all by saying they were mislead by Tory lies and media propaganda. While I agree that political lies happen as does media propaganda, it’s always happened and is done by all sides. People are used to it, there’s more to the Labour loss than Tory lies and media bias. |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 15:48:29 on 24 December 2019 |
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| Bob the regular, you ask whether the non disclosure agreement on Singh should be lifted? In principle it should,provided that in doing so the Council Tax Payer is not exposed to the threat of significant material loss !
Do you accept,Bob the regular,that like individuals,organisations,such as the City of Salford,have a right to privacy? If the gagging order was lifted,wouldn't grumpy,right wing malcontents,like yourself,use the disclosed information to beat up the council ? |
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Rossi wrote
at 15:48:14 on 24 December 2019 |
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| Look, Ray's alright. Fact is he's excelled as much as it is possible for him to excel, and he's reached the pinnacle of his career. His resume is pretty impressive for a boy from Salford. Long time Salford City Council employee. Staunch trade unionist. Member of the Salford Labour Party. Miss Becky's Joey ... And now Councillor.
But this is as good as it gets for old Ray. He's climbed as high as it's possible for him to go. Face it, dull plodding apparatchiks like Ray, they might be Che Guevara fans, but they lack old Che's razzamatazz. There will be no safe Labour seat for Ray. He'll never become the Member of Parliament for Salford. He has reached his zenith ... and with this being so I, as a fellow socialist and ... and Salfordian ... I ask him to come out of the closet and to have the courage to stop hiding under a sobriquet. Do the decent thing, Ray. Be yourself, and be proud.
That's all for now. Merry Christmas everyone. This is Rossi. Over and out ... |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 15:47:46 on 24 December 2019 |
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| Rossi,after removing your mockney,Italinate Nomenclature, what have you got in your useless existence? |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 15:47:12 on 24 December 2019 |
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| Gagged,for the last time, "I'm not a Labour Councilloŕ!" - I'm a free floating leftist dedicated to taking on the right!
Your reluctance to reveal the wrong that was done to you, makes me suspicious. I do hope you're not a first class bullshitter! |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 15:46:26 on 24 December 2019 |
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| Carl Williams, "Lebensraum" - literal translation,
"Living Space". Bit extreme,ain't, to compare Pathfinder to the Nazi Doctrine of Territorial Annexation!
Tell me this Carl,if I lose my shirt to Fred Done,
should the council bail me out? Obviously, not;equally why should Salford bail out property owners whose punts went disastrously wrong? |
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at 07:12:55 on 24 December 2019 |
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| I think Ray is repeating his mantra in the hope of convincing himself about pathfinder. However, his constant posting on here only serves to highlight Connors legacy in Salford and how he is remembered. I find it a bit sad that although the council do not like the Salford Star at all that they havent at least sent in one collective comment of condolence for Cllr Connors family. As the Star is unbiased and does not hold a grudge , I am sure they would publish it. |
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DARREN BORN AND BRED wrote
at 07:12:24 on 24 December 2019 |
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| Come on *GAGGED*, spill the beans, we are all waiting. You come on ere and you can't tell us. Come on man, tell us about this *GAGGING* order. |
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ROSSI wrote
at 18:54:45 on 23 December 2019 |
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| And why don't you do the same Ray, instead of hiding behind your sobriquet. We all know that You're Walker. Do it Ray, Do It! |
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Gagged wrote
at 18:54:10 on 23 December 2019 |
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| Mr Rayofsunshine, I thinketh that thou shouteth thy mouth off a bit too often. If you give me your word that the council will re imburse me for any breach of this non disclosure, as there was a third party involved, and also not disclose my name as I like my privacy, then I will tell you all about it. It is a story that needs to be told as what happened to me happened to others, but I don't know the outcome in their cases.Also, there were other cases in a district outside Salford, At least in one case,the life of a young girl was tragically ended. I will take my chances here as to whether you are in fact the labour councilor the know it alls who write here say you are. I think you are, and as such ,I will take your written words here as insurance. Be careful what you say Mr Ray. |
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carl williams wrote
at 18:53:54 on 23 December 2019 |
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| Well Ray--- look back through the Salford star archive and see how much properties were undervalued. I believe in the case that last man standing refers to, the owner was only offered 40% of the price eventually recieved after a land tribunal. However the offer was increased by the district valuer as even they could not blag such a low offer price.
If you read through about compulsory purchase, valuations are supposed to be in a "no scheme world".
Read through the Salford Star archives Ray and maybe see if you can find the short film that Nigel Pivaro did for Inside Out.
Are you a Pathfinder denier Ray?
Do you know another name for a territory claimed by a nation or state on the grounds that it is necessary for survival or growth? It is Lebensraum Ray
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 15:36:11 on 23 December 2019 |
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| Gagged,I think you doth protest too much - recent coverage in the media has shown that so-called, "Non Disclosure Agreements " are virtually unenforceable!
If you feel so strongly about the perceived wrong done to you,why not speak out? Are you an adult or a
mouse? |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 15:35:42 on 23 December 2019 |
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| Carl Williams,how can sub standard properties have sic "a fair market value"? Such properties are described by economists,as "inferior goods" - artifacts without an intrinsic value! |
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Gagged wrote
at 14:14:01 on 23 December 2019 |
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| Mr Rayofsunshine, for a person who does a lot of writing, it seems like you have trouble reading right.Like I said, I am gagged and my case had nothing to do with houses being bought by the council. I was told by my legal people that I could not tell anyone about what happened it was part of the settlement. I wish I could ,it would show you what these people are like. |
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Carl Williams wrote
at 12:37:48 on 23 December 2019 |
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| I think if you do a search of the Salford Star archives Ray, you will find that the council payed well under a fair market value. In some cases owners got 40% of what they should have got.
Home owners subsidised the developers in effect. |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 12:13:41 on 23 December 2019 |
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| Gagged,do you accept that Salford City Counci has a duty to achieve "value for money" in its dealings,
including purchasing sub standard properties? Why should the Council Tax Payer bail out home owners? |
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BORN AND BRED IN XMAS SALFORD. DARREN. wrote
at 10:57:09 on 23 December 2019 |
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| GAGGED. On 23December. @, your not telling us the FULL story, we all want to know what was a DANGER to others, come on mate, spill the beans. You don't have to mention any names. Merry Xmas. |
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Gagged wrote
at 07:40:18 on 23 December 2019 |
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| I was involved in a case involving Salford Council.It had nothing to do with houses. It involved something that is still a danger to others. I am not allowed to say anything about it because I am gagged under a gagging order. |
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Last man standing wrote
at 19:15:45 on 22 December 2019 |
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| Mr. Rayofsunshine, Salford council used the fact that they could not pay more than market value for properties in the pathfinder areas. Quite correct. But I know that when taken to a land tribuel the litigants recieved almost double the council's original valuation of their property. Depending how you view the way the council reached their valuation, Illegal or immoral or gross ineptitude is somewhere in the mix.
I thank you! |
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Bob the regular wrote
at 19:12:46 on 22 December 2019 |
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| Well Ray here you go. Both cannon green,and the kersal flats were both designed by Cruikshank and Seward, a very well respected firm of architects going back till the 1920's and only dissolved in about 2014. The main contractors were Truscon who developed a very good system of in situ concrete for the frame which was very strong. Not like the cheaper pre cast crap that came later. These guys knew what they were doing. Just look at the picture of the buildings being blown up at the top of this page. Thats them. They look like cannon green don't they. Not been to kersal flats for 35 years, had a pal there and it was a bit scruffy then, run down, but they were solid.Very solid and thats the main thing. The trouble was, it suited the then council,to pull them down, moving the people to places like Langworthy, and hoping a future labour government would give them cash for new houses. Other deck access flats in salford,even older ones on eccles new road and Regent road. were refurbed. look at them now. Regards cannon green. must be 6 years since i visited there. I must admit it was not like kersal was. still structurally sound but none were tinned up. Even then there was talk of doing them up. By the way Ray,Kersal flats were not Pathfinder ,they were before that. You have moved the subject a bit. Let us get back to this Pathfinder case. You know, the one where the council were found to have done wrong by the courts, and it cost well over a million to put right. THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD THE GAGGING ORDER, WHICH PREVENTS THE PUBLIC KNOWING ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THIS CASE BE LIFTED ? YES OR NO? I know you cannot answer this question, and I know why. Miss Becky, I know you read the Star, why don't you tell Ray to come clean on this one. You cannot be blamed for all this because you were not even in Salford at this time, let alone our MP. Ray cannot be blamed either, he wasn't a councilor when all this happened.This is a good time to bury bad news for the labour party, just like Tony Blair buried a load the day after 9/11. So come on the pair of you, be honest with the Salford people . YES or NO. |
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For Ray wrote
at 19:12:40 on 22 December 2019 |
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| Have a look in the dictionary for "Lebensraum"
" noun
territory for political and economic expansion"
Sound familiar Ray? Maybe Mr Hitlers version was both legal and moral as well? |
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Bob the regular wrote
at 19:12:14 on 22 December 2019 |
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| Look Ray, this Singh case, if there was nothing illegal or immoral involved then why are the council keeping it under a gagging order? I have it on very good authority that when it was ongoing, the late councilor was most concerned about its progress. Harvey Weinstein had lots of gagging orders on the civil cases he had to settle. Did he not do anything immoral or illegal?
The question is the same. In order to see that the council did not do anything illegal or immoral, do you think that this gagging order should be lifted?YES OR NO. I know you cannot answer this question and I know why. Perhaps someone should ask Miss Becky about it? She should have no fear of a truthful answer.After all, she wasn't even in Salford when all this happened. She wasn't even in Salford when the case took place. Perhaps she does not even know about it. She will know when she reads this letter, cos I know she reads the Star each day before I do.Lets hope she chucks you all under the bus as it were. I bet you regret bringing up the pathfinder word now don't you? Over to you Ray. |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 12:29:56 on 22 December 2019 |
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| Bob the regular,what hard evidence do you have that the flats in Cannon Green and Kersal had the same physical condition or as usual, are you "winging it" ,Bob ? Merry Christmas, to you and your family,Bob.
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 13:09:42 on 21 December 2019 |
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| Legal eagle,the fact that Singh won their court case doesn't mean that in itself,Pathfinder,as operated in Salford,was either illegal or immoral. |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 17:58:30 on 20 December 2019 |
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| Sense of humour?,as I thought at the time of her death,it was unseemly to rejoice in the passing of Thatcher. Despite her many crimes and pathological hatred for the Working Class,at the end,Thatcher was just a frail old lady!
Sense of humour?,the administrators of the Pathfinder Scheme had a strict obligation to deliver
"value for money" when renewing Salford's stock of properties. The "siren voices" that are now raised against Pathfinder come mostly from individuals who lossed out in "the great property lottery"! Unfortunately, when it came to Pathfinder, there was an unbridgeable chasm between individual property owners and the city as a whole when it came to need for urban renewal! |
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Nice one Ray wrote
at 17:10:45 on 19 December 2019 |
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| I suspect that you didn't like Cllr Connor very much and you knew that your comments on here would bring up the pathfinder scheme and the demolitions, thus highlighting that Connor was a big part of this in Salford.
Very well played Ray-------a subtle kicking of a corpse. |
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Truth hurts wrote
at 17:10:18 on 19 December 2019 |
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| Why so abusive rayofsunshine ? In the words of Aaron Neville you've "Got to tell it like it is" |
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Bob the regular wrote
at 17:08:52 on 19 December 2019 |
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| As you all know,I am nothing but a simple hairy arsed construction worker who,Unlike our wise elected friends on Salford council, knows nothing about the inadequate housing and slums that our Ray refers to. If our Ray looks carefully at the photo of Kersal flats, he will see dwellings that I presume he thinks are unfit slums being rightfully blown up, despite being built by our clever elected idiots only 30 years before. If he looks even closer he will notice that these flats are identical in design and construction as Canon Green Court. They were built by the same people and architects. This block is currently having millions of pounds spent on it to give it a new lease of life, over 30 years after its sister blocks were blown up. Was canon green a slum before the recent renovation? No, it just needed an upgrade. So why did the council pull these blocks down?.Can Ray explain why Kersal was slums and canon green isn't. The people living in both blocks was the same. Ordinary working class Salford people. It was the same with pathfinder. Give Salford council a few bob and a bulldozer and they will demolish the world. What about the little terraced slums in Worsley. They are called quaint little cottages now costing hundreds of thousands, yet not as well built as the houses knocked down by salford council. Legaleagle raises a point about that case that had a non disclosure agreement on it. I thought these things were there to protect people like Harvey Weinstein and that other fella prince Andrew has been knocking about with. Would Ray welcome this gagging order to be lifted? That way we could all find the truth. A yes or no answer do. Ray will not answer this one. He can't. Miss Becky as we all know is a lawyer by trade. Can she not tell our Ray of the old Maxim "justice must not only be done, it should be seen to be done" (sussex mags case) |
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Lieutenant Rossi, L.A PD wrote
at 09:59:12 on 19 December 2019 |
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| I knew that you would give the game away eventually, Ray. That it was inevitable that you would make a false move. So now that we all know who you are, and now that the pantomime season is in full swing, I beseech you, Stop this Nonsense. Just be yourself. It's not as if you've got anything to lose. Labour have lost and are out in the wilderness for at least ten years ... And if Miss Becky becomes leader, then they'll be in the wilderness for a lot longer. So just embrace who you are. You're Walker, of Riverside, a place where the sun ain't gonna shine anymore ... at least not till summer, anyway. And do the Right Thing and look after Your Constituents! |
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Legaleagle wrote
at 08:24:46 on 19 December 2019 |
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| Mr Rayofsunshine asserts that properties demolished during the Pathfinder scheme were clearly inadequate or slums. I don't know much about other areas, but there was one area, in Higher Broughton where this matter was settled in the High court. The case concerned was R v Salford City Council ex parte Singh, 2011. The case was settled in 2012. Here, the court held, inter alia, that the housing that Salford Council wanted to demolish was adequate, and that the council had to refurbish a large number of these properties, compensate all the residents and pay their legal bills. The council also craftily agreed a non disclosure agreement which means Salford residents cannot find out what went on here. What does Mr Rayofsunshine have to say about this. Nothing I suspect |
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ROSSI 😁 wrote
at 08:23:33 on 19 December 2019 |
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| Ray mate, you've just proved you're Walker. Nice one Ray. Pssssst. Your comments in memory of the deceased Councillor were positively Shakespearian. Most articulate piece of writing from you ever. Now go and look after your constituents. |
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at 08:23:03 on 19 December 2019 |
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| There you have Ray showing the contempt that Connor also showed the people who had their houses taken off them for next to nothing.
Ray you are talking through your arse. Most of the houses that were demolished were not unfit.
Bill shakespeare said in Julius Ceasar
"I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them" Time will tell Ray.Time will tell. |
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Sense of humour? wrote
at 08:22:21 on 19 December 2019 |
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| Rayofsunshine, I do know it is aint proper to speak ill of the dead. It is a great pity that most of your socialist friends do not know this. Look at all the great rejoicing on the streets when that evil old cow Thatcher kicked the bucket. Thatcher, although wicked ,did less harm to the Salford people than our labour council have. The main lot leading the celebrations then were the left wing of your labour party. I must admit that I was glad she was gone for good as well, I just could not be arsed making a song and dance of it. If being dead lets politicians off for the the evil things they have done through their lives, that rule must apply to all of them in fairness. Adolf Hitler, Stalin,Kagganovitch, Pol Pot, Sadam Hussain , Col Gadaffi , Mrs T and countless others.In answer to the fitness of houses pulled down, I think few could be classed as inadequate or slums. Even if they were, what gives councils the right to pull peoples homes down homes that they own, then make them pay rent? The council and Salix homes house plenty of people in inadequate and slum housing. Does that give me the right to knock them down? |
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at 08:21:33 on 19 December 2019 |
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| And there Ray shows his true colours.
Have you a few good words for Jimmy Saville as well then Ray? |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 12:20:36 on 18 December 2019 |
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| Sense of humour go and shove your anger "where the sun doesn't shine!" Don't you know it isn't proper to speak ill of the dead? Most of the properties cleared by Pathfinder were clearly inadequate,if not slums! |
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Sense of humour? wrote
at 08:45:05 on 18 December 2019 |
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| Sense of humour? I bet he used to laugh his balls off at all the peoples houses he used to knock down, people who got paid nothing for their houses, as he carried out his social and ethnic cleansing of the Salford people. Lovely man? just like the rest at our town hall |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 13:16:44 on 17 December 2019 |
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| So sad to hear of Cllr's Connor's passing - he was a lovely man with a wicked sense of humour! He had the capability to laugh both at himself and "politics" in general.
Condolences to Cllr's Connor's family and friends. |
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