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OVER HALF OF GREATER MANCHESTER COUNCILLORS DIDN’T OPEN FIRE SERVICE CUTS CONSULTATION DOCS
 

Star date: 16th September 2019

GM FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE CONSULTATION GIVES THUMBS DOWN TO CUTS

Proposals for £12.8million cuts to the Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue Service, including reductions of fire engines, crew numbers and fire stations, have received a resounding thumbs down in the published consultation results.

Well over one thousand comments were received from the public, staff, trade unions and community organisations – but the apathy of councillors was astounding, with 378 out of 637 elected members across the region not even bothering to open the consultation email.

Full details here...


Results have now been published from a consultation on cuts to the Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue Service, which ran until May this year, and shows opposition from the public, staff, the Fire Brigades Union and UNISON, plus community organisations towards proposals aimed at meeting "a £12.8million budget deficit for the next year".

Measures included merging six fire stations into three, having only four firefighters on each fire engine and the removal of eight second fire engines from stations currently with two engines, plus a new delivery model for Prevention, Protection, Youth Engagement and Administration.

The consultation attracted almost 1,300 public comments with most critical of the reduced number of fire engines in Greater Manchester.

Relating to Salford, Pendleton Together had "Concern around the reduction of second pumps in the Borough – especially considering high rise, growth and some buildings with AMC cladding on them".

Salford Royal NHS Trust also had "concerns about the available resource in front line staff to deliver prevention activities", while fire service staff themselves had "concerns surrounding city centre stations, in Salford and Manchester, due to the number of new developments...

"Staff also questioned resilience and risk planning around large incidents, such as high-rise and moorland fires", they added "...in Manchester borough we have the largest density of life risk incidents which will increase due to the amount of developments in and around the city, and what we are doing is dramatically reducing the number of appliances and the number of fire fighters in these areas it just does not make sense."

"If most stations are one pump and a high rise incident occurs then where is the immediate slack in the system?" they asked.

Meanwhile, only three Greater Manchester MPs responded to the consultation, including Salford and Eccles MP Rebecca Long Bailey, whose feedback included 'Understanding of the pressure that a Conservative Government is putting on public spending'; 'operational issues (riding 4's, reduction in operational resources)'; 'Change of shift system at non-SDS stations'; 'Closure of six fire stations, and the opening of three new ones'; and 'Removal of several/some non-uniformed staff, with FF [Fire Fighters] taking on the workload'.

The consultation report notes that "Updates were sent to councillors from across Greater Manchester through the consultation, to encourage them to respond and spread the information out to their local constituents. The email update was sent to 637 Councillors, and 259 opened the email"and 378, or well over half, didn't even bother to open it!

The report also notes from staff feedback that "A reoccurring theme is the lack of belief in the consultation and the ability to influence outcomes...Personnel feel powerless to influence the process of decision making and that senior management have already made their own minds up. They have no belief in the process...Staff cited a lack in clarity in governance and a lack of trust in decision making..."

The consultation feedback will be sent to the Corporate Leadership Team "to help to inform recommendations for the Mayor of Greater Manchester"...But will Andy Burnham take any notice? Watch this space...


To read the full Consultation Report – click here

bob the regular wrote
at 19:31:11 on 18 September 2019
Let me confirm here and now for our Ray. I have the same amount of love and affection for Boris and the Torys as I have for Corbyn, Dennett, Merry and all the socialist tossers in the labour party.
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 10:02:58 on 18 September 2019
Bob the regular,it's obvious to everyone now that you are a Tory Dupe!
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bob the regular wrote
at 05:47:33 on 18 September 2019
Can some of our fire brigade people put pen to paper to explain the deal that was done years ago to our Ray. This deal should not be up for renegotiation , it is one of them deals like the good Friday agreement. The GmC and Burnham and the rest of them are just trying to save money on essential services so they can waste it on lefty ones..Like I said,send for Deggsy,he is most likely looking for a row with the Labour lot. This row has nothing to do with the tories.
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white wrote
at 05:46:56 on 18 September 2019
DARREN BORN AND BRED Andy Burnham doesn't live in Leigh. He live sin Warrington, therefore Cheshire.
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 16:18:54 on 17 September 2019
Bob the regular, if the consultation is genuine then both the Fire Service and Mayor Burnham should abide by the opinions voiced,I.e. no cuts! I'm shocked that most councillors couldn't be bothered to respond to the email - they should be named and shamed! Ultimately though,the real guilty party here are the Tories who have imposed 9 years of austerity on the fire service in Greater Manchester.
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DARREN BORN AND BRED wrote
at 16:18:40 on 17 September 2019
We all need the fire service. Our GM MAYOR, Andy Burnham lives in Leigh. I wonder if there is any CUTS to the Leigh areas of wigan, there have got 4 fire station's in Wigan area... In out GREAT CITY, Salford, there is 5 stations, broughton, agecroft, Liverpool st, Eccles and irlam. We should all get together and say NO to these CUTS.
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bob the regular wrote
at 00:30:32 on 17 September 2019
I know a few lads that were in the fire service, some until fairly recent. They are up in XXXXXXX arms about all this, and they tell me the people still serving are even madder. Years ago, there was a big fire brigade strike about pay, staffing levels, conditons ect, all that sort of stuff. It was agreed by all, government, councils ,fire brigade union, ect ,that it was wrong for the fire brigade to go on strike as it was an essential public service. All sides got together and worked out a formula covering everything , pay, staffing levels, conditions the lot. All sides were happy. Now, the GMC under Burnham is trying to rat on this arrangement,and Miss Becky is trying to back up this rubbish with a pile of utter bullshit about the Tories. It is just not on. If there are any Brigade personnel reading this perhaps they add further to this. What our politicians need is a fire house shoving up there arses and the water turned on full. That would make them see sense. Get Deggsy Hatton out, he used to be a fireman ,He,ll give em a proasting. Over to you Ray.
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