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23 STOREY BLOCK SET FOR ECCLES TOWN CENTRE WITH NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING
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Star date: 6th June 2019 HUGE CHURCH STREET BLOCK WITH 272 FLATS TO HAVE NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING The Salford City Council Planning Panel is set to consider an application for three blocks of four, six and 23 storey high buildings containing 272 flats and shops on Church Street in Eccles, that will have no affordable housing The developer will pay only £60,000 in planning obligations due to 'viability', with a 'clawback' arrangement in place, as the planning officer's report states that "The proposal is likely to improve the vitality and viability of Eccles Town Centre". Full details here...
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The top end of Church Street in Eccles is set to see three huge blocks of 272 flats, plus shops, spread out in three four, six and 23 storey buildings, if Salford Council's Planning Panel approves the plans next week. As the development, proposed by Silverlane Developments (NW) Ltd, is deemed by Salford Council to be in a 'low value' area, the officer's report states that it "does not trigger a requirement for an affordable housing contribution". The officer report on the application also states that "The council has identified Eccles Town Centre as requiring significant investment to the built environment, including the public realm to enable the area to become a more sustainable and successful location for housing and retail.... "...The cost of new and improved public realm infrastructure is estimated to be significant and the council requires new development to play a part in supporting these costs" the report adds. However, the developer has submitted a 'viability' report showing that its profits won't be high enough if it has to pay such Section 106 costs, and has agreed with the Council to cough up just £60,000 as an 'initial contribution' with a 'clawback' agreement in place "should the viability of the development improve in the future"... Seven objections to the scheme have been lodged to the scheme, arguing that it is 'out of context' with the area, that it is an 'eyesore' and that it would 'adversely affect the historical nature of Church Street and the quirky nature of the buildings and businesses that are there already', including the Grade 1 listed Eccles Parish Church. Four supporters of the scheme counter that it 'will breathe some much needed life back into Eccles Centre' and will 'bring more people into the town, to the benefit of the Eccles'... The Salford Council planning officer's report recommends approval of the scheme; "The proposal is likely to improve the vitality and viability of Eccles Town Centre by removing a mixture of out dated buildings that would be difficult to convert and replace them with a modern building that has flexible commercial space to the ground floor and an appropriate residential use above" the report states "The residential use will introduce a permanent population within the town centre with a spending power that would be beneficial to the surrounding retail uses" it adds "In addition to a fresh modern design that complements the existing local context, the
proposal would also bring about improvements to the public realm that would improve the overall environment of the town centre. These improvements to the local economy and environment should have a positive knock-on effect on the local community..."
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Darren Born Bred. wrote
at 11:27:05 on 25 February 2021 |
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| Has anyone been to Eccles precinct and the surrounding area recently. It's like going to a different world. I was on the rundown shabby eccles precinct the other day and it really depressed me and I thought Salford precinct was bad. It's only 2 miles from the swanky clean media city/Salford quays. No middle/upper class people will move to the centre of eccles and paticroft areas, only monton and Ellesmere park. |
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bob wrote
at 11:02:18 on 25 February 2021 |
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| Got to disagree with Rossi on this one. The yuppies will love it in Eccles. Yuppies go to work ,and the commute will be great for them. If they work in town they can jump on the train which is very quick, better than bus or tram. If they work on the quays, then the metro will suite them great. If they work at the hospital its a couple of stops on the bus or walk it. For nights out on the piss, well they wont go to church street, but monton is just round the corner. You just watch Rossi,the yuppies will love it,I think it will help the young professionals from the hospital.Housing at the right price is a big problem for them.Their housing needs are a problem for us as well, because what happens is these people just go and work in hospitals near where housing is cheaper.This leads to staff shortages in areas like ours. |
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Rossi wrote
at 10:02:26 on 25 February 2021 |
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| Dave Lomas, Dream on Dave, you Muppet, you're not gonna get Yuppies in Eccles you Mug! |
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Joe Muggins wrote
at 09:30:43 on 25 February 2021 |
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| Where do the council get these planning officers from and does anyone know where these planning officers live?
It won’t be in Salford. |
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Dave Lomas wrote
at 22:49:09 on 24 February 2021 |
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| We need more people living IN Eccles willing to spend their money IN Eccles. Folk won't travel to Eccles until the people of Eccles decide to shop there,see above. We cant compete with Trafford Centre et al on their terms but we can attract a different clientel - look at what Chorlton has delivered. More yuppies please. |
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teresa potter wrote
at 08:22:44 on 01 November 2019 |
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| hello ive lived in eccles 58 years my dad wont know eccles now he worked on the bins also on the milk when they had horses had the trams its a big change to a lot of eccles lovers it will be entirely different to the old eccles I only live over the rd there will be more flats near me |
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john mansell wrote
at 08:46:18 on 05 September 2019 |
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| Eccles always has and always will remain a shithole.. |
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Kev wrote
at 14:04:09 on 11 June 2019 |
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| If it gets rid of the scuzzy element that hang around the tram stop, bus station and Morrison's, I'm all for it. At the moment Eccles just isn't a pleasant place to go to, makes Salford Precinct seem posh. |
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jon wrote
at 14:03:59 on 11 June 2019 |
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| Antony Mills, it appears that most, if not all other people posting on here agree with me, Eccles currently need investment and improvement. You seem to be in the minority in thinking it is booming. I repeat, shoppers visiting the large retail sheds are not, in my opinion, visiting Eccles Town Centre, and are certainly not experiencing a great retail environment. Where is your response to everything I mentioned in my post, poor public realm, inferior shopping provision, derelict shops, council failure to invest, etc? Or should I quote back at you " I bet that's shut you up, hasn't it?" |
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Mr brexit wrote
at 10:57:31 on 09 June 2019 |
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| @Anthony mills. By the way, did you know that more people do their shopping in Eccles than they ever did during its 'good old days'? I bet that's shut you up, hasn't it?........... I remember Eccles in the late 70s early 80s it was packed out, especially weekends, now it’s just a shit hole with arcades, charity shops and on most days deserted. There used to be a community spirit in Eccles, that has long since gone, it went when Salford labour council close down the market, this ripped the heart out of Eccles, I’ve got old pictures of Eccles before Salford Labour council took over and they’ve destroyed it over the years and this was mainly done to push shoppers to the Trafford centre, Salford Labour council also put parking restrictions in place all over Eccles to force shoppers out of Eccles. And Anthony I’m not from Eccles, Eccles was once a great place, before Salford labour council got hold of it. |
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DJB wrote
at 10:56:53 on 09 June 2019 |
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| Eccles needs this type of investment, those that say they will be an eyesore should look at the tower blocks already in Eccles for inspiration of what a real eyesore looks like.
The apartments will attract people who work on the Quays and in town because of the rail & Met links and you'd think people who will have money to spend, pretty sure you'll see Eccles start to regenerate and the current trend of charity shops, £1 stores and bookies stop in favour of shops selling things that people actually want, I'd also see another super market opening nearby and a good few boutique pubs too.
All in all a brilliant chance for Eccles to recapture some of it's former glory. |
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jon wrote
at 10:56:40 on 09 June 2019 |
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| Antony, so I can't be a real man if I enjoy a good retail experience! That comment alone negates the rest of your diatribe. I do indeed like a good retail environment, and I am definitely a man. A couple of restaurant and bar openings does not indicate that the tide has been turned and Eccles is now a wonderful place to shop. In fact what does F&B openings have to do with the retail offerings, or the dreadful environment? Church Street boarded up shops and pound store products of plastic bowls and tat spilling onto the street is not my idea of retail heaven. The half derelict precinct dominated by a poorly maintained car park looming over the public square is dismal. Retail experiences do not have to be depressing, and your assertion is quite frankly ludicrous. Altrincham, Bolton, Bury, to name but three, have all turned failing and depressing town centres into vibrant and attractive areas. Your insistence that Eccles Town Centre is booming does nothing to encourage the investment needed to turn the tide of ever increasing dereliction. And I do not agree with your statement that more people are shopping in Eccles than ever before. They may well be visiting The Range, Morrisons and other businesses on the retail park, but they are avoiding the town centre like the plague. A few large shed like stores do not make for a pleasant retail experience, it is depressing. Eccles needs massive investment to address the awful public realm, it can and should be better. I have high hopes and know that it can be turned around, but suggesting that things are just dandy right now is laughable and plays into the hands of the council. It gives the council the excuse to withhold investment. My experience is a valid one, so no, it hasn't shut me up. I stand by my statement that I find Eccles Town Centre the most depressing retail environment I have ever encountered. |
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Vinny houtens wrote
at 16:41:04 on 08 June 2019 |
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| I’ve lived in Eccles all my life ; and since Salford council took over , it has become run down and no money spent on the area , what so ever ! We don’t need these high rise flats in this area ! Why not invest in proper businesses and shops to bring the area back to what it once was ! Typical people who don’t care about the area that once was booming ! |
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Antony Mills wrote
at 16:40:44 on 08 June 2019 |
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| Yes, Eccles is in dire straits at the moment with a new bar just opened. Oh and that tapas bar. Mr's A's Kitchen opens on Saturday and an ice-cream parlour will be following.did I mention the Mediterranean restaurant? And as for it being the most depressing retailing experienced you have ever experienced then I can only think you are not a genuine man. EVERY retail experience is depressing. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. By the way, did you know that more people do their shopping in Eccles than they ever did during its 'good old days'? I bet that's shut you up, hasn't it?
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Joan wrote
at 16:40:29 on 08 June 2019 |
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| I want progress
But not at the expense of the localor the buildings
That would be MY CRITERIA |
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jon wrote
at 16:40:15 on 08 June 2019 |
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| Sandra, why should they only provide homes for people that want to live in low rise properties? The boom in high rise properties in Salford Quays and Manchester City Centre proves that there are plenty of people that want to live in quality high rise apartments, and pay handsomely for the privilege. And as for new shops, what's the point when the ones that are there are vacant? You need to have people living locally that have disposable income to ensure any redevelopment of shops is sustainable. A raft of low income, just about managing residents in affordable rented property will not produce a vibrant retail core. They don't have any spare cash to spend.
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Rossi wrote
at 16:39:56 on 08 June 2019 |
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| Because Sandra, the world's population is ever increasing, and the UK's population is ever increasing, also, shops will one day be a thing of the past. After all, everything will be bought online. Thus the future will be shops being turned into apartments, or coffee bars, or fast food outlets. The high street won't really exist any more. We'll live in a society of high rise apartments, and people will work in Amazon Fulfillment Centre's somewhere in the county. |
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Sandra wrote
at 14:43:19 on 07 June 2019 |
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| Why do developers think we need more high rise properties why can they not put a couple of low rise properties there and new shops. We need affordable housing and local people I’m sure would like low rise properties |
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jon wrote
at 14:43:03 on 07 June 2019 |
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| Chris, I suggest you read the D&A statement and see the facade detailing reproduced in the associated documents. You will be pleasantly surprised that it will be constructed with a brick facade.
I agree with both Sue and Arnold. There needs to be people with money to spend in the shops to enable them to stay open. Eccles retail offering is dying, it will never improve if there are not more affluent people brought to the centre. I went to Eccles last Saturday, and it was quite frankly the most depressing retail experience I have ever experienced. |
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Chris wrote
at 08:14:48 on 07 June 2019 |
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| I really really don't want to see this happen to Eccles. Like the rest of modern buildings it looks to be an ugly concrete scar upon the landscape not to mention in order for it to be built we must destroy more of our history, and for what? Yet again a group of out of touch politicians seek only to line their own pockets. |
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Ashley wrote
at 08:14:42 on 07 June 2019 |
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| Sorry but they will look out off place to big 23 storeys and not affordable housing..... |
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Arnold Rimmer wrote
at 08:14:24 on 07 June 2019 |
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| To be fair, Eccles is in dire need of some money so moving in people that have some might improve the town centre that is currently in dire straits.
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Sue wrote
at 14:45:06 on 06 June 2019 |
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| They look lovely, but if you are putting private sector purchases with DSS then it won't work!! |
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