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CHINESE TO TAKE OVER AJ BELL STADIUM AND LAND, WHILE INVESTING IN BUILE HILL MANSION SALFORD PUBLIC MEETING HEARS
 

Star date: 15th August 2018 

BUILE HILL MANSION SUPPORT GROUP MEETING HEARS OF 'CHINESE' PLANS FOR SALFORD

Over the last few months, rumours of a Chinese buyout of the AJ Bell Stadium and its land, hand outs for the Buile Hill Mansion and a possible plan for a Salford Red Devils takeover have been louder than bombs. At last night's meeting of the Buile Hill Mansion Support Group, these plans were aired in public for the first time.

Full details here...


Last night, the Buile Hill Mansion Support Group met at the Methodist Hall on the Height to further the campaign to save the Grade II listed Buile Hill Mansion, and feedback was given from meetings with Capital and Centric developer Tim Heatley and John Blackburn of Salford Red Devils Foundation who are both involved with the Memorandum of Understanding to sort the Mansion's future.

Meanwhile, in the background, there have been persistent rumours circulating the city that 'the Chinese' are up for buying the AJ Bell Stadium and its land, and possibly taking over the Salford Red Devils, while putting a vast amount of money into the restoration of the Mansion.

When the Salford Star questioned Salford Red Devils' director Andrew Rosler about a Chinese takeover of the club a few months ago, he just laughed, said he'd love that to be the case but, in any case, the trustees don't have the authority to sell the club. And that seemed to be that. Except the rumours persisted...

At the Buile Hill Mansion Support Group meeting it was stated publicly from the platform that "some of the money to develop the Mansion will come from the Chinese", and a figure of ?2million was mentioned. It was added that the possible deal was in relation to 'the Chinese' buying the AJ Bell Stadium and the land surrounding it.

The AJ Bell Stadium, joint owned by Salford City Council and Peel Holdings, is currently mired in debt. ?26.408million has been loaned to the Stadium company (City of Salford Community Stadium Ltd) by the Council, which includes an original loan of ?22million, of which ?16.189million is still outstanding, and ?4.408million in further loans over the last five years. The Stadium is due yet another loan from Salford Council over the next month or so as part of its, now annual, bail-out.

The Council has been desperate to sell the land around the Stadium to pay off the debt but so far only the Greene King Barley Farm pub and restaurant site has been sold and developed. A report to Salford councillors recently added that two further plots of land "are in the process of finalising legal process", although there was no mention of any Chinese buyout.

'The Chinese' already have a foothold in Salford, via Middlewood Locks, and were also on board financially with Peel Holdings' Wirral Waters scheme. It's well known that China is interested in infrastructure and, with Port Salford next door to the Barton land and Stadium it kind of fits in.

While Salford awaits the almost mythical 'Chinese' saviours, the campaign to save Buile Hill Mansion moves forward, as the meeting heard that Capital and Centric's Tim Heatley has a "personal passion for Buile Hill Park", and wants a positive dialogue with the community about how people see Buile Hill Park developing ? looking at, not just the Mansion, but the old depot, banqueting suite and the park as a whole.

Following public outrage, building houses in the park is now off the menu, while plans for a 'patient hotel' on the site of the old depot are also apparently no longer on the cards, as the health authorities want to site the building in Stott Lane, removing sixty car parking spaces for Salford Royal Hospital to enable it.

Ideas for artists' studios and a cafe were discussed, although in the Support Group's meeting with Heatley, he stressed that any plans have to be 'viable' and provide a financial return to the developer. He told the committee members 'I'm more than happy talking to the public but they need to support any plans'...

Both Tim Heatley and the Foundation's John Blackburn have agreed to attend the next Support Group meeting, which will happen in mid-September. In the meantime, a survey is being launched to get ideas from the community for what they would like to see happen in Buile Hill Park, which will include a stall at its Heritage Open Day event on September 9th (details to follow).

One rather worrying piece of information given to the meeting was that the Mansion has no smoke/fire alarm and that the building isn't particularly secure. Indeed, this Friday the Urban Collective is releasing a video shot inside the Mansion.* So the campaign to save the building, be it via Capital and Centric, the Council or 'the Chinese' needs to move pretty fast...


To keep in touch with all developments join the Buile Hill Mansion Support Group on Facebook ? click here

*To view the video see the Urban Collective Facebook site ? click here

The Salford Star would have asked Salford City Council to confirm or deny the information on 'the Chinese' buyout/investment but the Council hasn't spoken to or responded to comment requests from the Star for over five years.

Rayofsunshine wrote
at 06:39:48 on 19 August 2018
White, although Rossi may have got some details wrong, fundamentally he got right the condition of Chinese Workers. Under the Maoist Dictatorship a "slave economy" has been imposed;workers are denied fundamental Labour Rights,in the past strikes have been put down by force. Outside the coastal areas, the average wage is about $4000 a year - meanwhi e senior communist bureaucrats amass fortunes running into millions of dollars. The forthcoming Chinese Proletarian Revolution will be a key event of the 21st Century!

Rossi enlightens wrote
at 06:39:29 on 19 August 2018
Fletcherclifton ... No why doesn't provide valid facts. For one, he doesn't detail where his sources come from. My guess is that they come from wikkipedia, which means that if they do, they're not valid facts. I, Rossi, have looked up the Chinese minimum wage, oh the joy of hsving an android phone, and it turns out that the minimum wage is different in the various regions of China. In many places the minimum wage is just over one pound per hour. I read something about how happy one woman was to work for her 3,400 yuan per month, working from five in the morning to eight at night, for what turns out to be approximately sixty four pounds sterling a week. Doesn't sound so good now, does it? In The Final Analysis, all that I can say to you die hard People's Republic of China lovers is, why don't you go and live there. It sounds like a really good place. Honestly it does. Even if Wayne Rooney wouldn't do a couple of seasons there for a million pounds per week. The place just sounds wonderful. You know, with the air pollution, the animal cruelty, the lack of democracy, the police brutality against anybody with a valid reason to protest, and just the all round repressiveness of the nation in general. Yes, so why don't you leave Salford, where we have it pretty good, with competent politicians, and a reasonable police force, hospitals, and other stuff in general, most importantly freedom. The freedom to be gay or to dare criticise the mandarins that beaver away in the Town Hall, or Big Government in all its glory, and move to the People's Republic of China ... I'm sure that you will be welcome there.

fletcherclifton wrote
at 07:10:59 on 18 August 2018
I can see White's point. He produces valid facts, I checked them and they are right, only for Rossi to respond with an irrelevant diatribe and a gratuitous insult. Such shouldn't be tolerated in these articles.

white wrote
at 19:22:30 on 17 August 2018
Mr.Rossi, You really are an appalling character. Faced with a comment that provides facts which clearly refute your allegations about employment in China, you respond with insults. If you can?t dispute the message, be rude to the messenger seems to be your habitual method.

Bob the regular wrote
at 15:08:31 on 17 August 2018
Marcus I suspect,like his fictional namesake in birds of a feather, is a member of the "financial services Industry", these people who sweat and toil at the coalface of the finnacial world to provide finance for the peasants to be given work. well ,if the government can find 100,s of billions of pounds out of thin air to bail these people out ten years ago, perhaps it can find money from the same source to build the things we need built.Marcus will know for sure that our new friends from China are merely just spending all their soon to be worthless dollars on real assets around the world, as I mentioned in a previous post. It may come as a surprise for people to hear this but I am of the firm belief that some of John Mcdonnells ideas for creating investment finance are indeed sound, but they have to be put into operation properly .Why do we need money from China?

ROSSI THUNDERS wrote
at 15:08:14 on 17 August 2018
If you love China so much White, then why don't you go and live there. I'm sure that it's a beautiful place, up there with the likes of North Korea, Saudi Arabia and Russia as a place to live and work, especially if you embrace things such as freedom, human rights, free speech, gender equality and democracy. You know something White? Your name actually rhymes with something brown that you talk a lot of.

white wrote
at 10:33:37 on 17 August 2018
Referring to factory workers in China, Mr. Rossi states ?These poor bastards, who are treated no better than slaves, toil away, hour after hour, doing fifteen hour days, for about one dollar an hour,? He obviously gets his information form some outdated source. Up to date reliable sources will tell him that the average factory worker in China earns $27.50 per day, considerably more than other Asian countries such as $8.60 in Indonesia and $6.70 in Vietnam. Major industrial cities have imposed minimum hourly rates for factory workers; in Shanghai it is $3, in Shenzhen $2.93 and Beijing $3.16. Yes workers work for long hours but by no stretch of the imagination can this be described as slavery. Mr. Rossi clearly needs to do a little research before making outrageous statements.

Rossi speaks wrote
at 09:51:29 on 17 August 2018
Marcus, The Chinese have the money because they are a One Party Totalitarian Gangster State. There are no human rights in China, and by virtue of their being a One Party Totalitarian Gangster State, they have an endless supply of cheap labour. These poor bastards, who are treated no better than slaves, toil away, hour after hour, doing fifteen hour days, for about one dollar an hour, making all of the cheap crap that fills up most of our shops nowadays. This is why China is now so rich, having all the money. It operates with a virtual slave labour workforce. Thus it can easily undercut other nations and increase its own exports. This is nothing for anybody to be proud of. It is wrong. I would even go as far as to say that it is evil.

Marcus wrote
at 09:37:06 on 17 August 2018
China already own most of our retail, vast swathes of apartment blocks and land, and a lot of our infrastructure. The Chinese are buying up most of the buy to let properties too. Get over it. You lot can?t stand progress. Facts are it?s the Chinese who have the money, the Brits certainly don?t, unless it?s for boozing at the weekend. Jealousy if ever I heard it. And Mrs Ferrer how are you going to stop the Chinese takeovers? Without foreign investment we would still be up to our ears in slums.

Bob the regular wrote
at 13:05:26 on 16 August 2018
Good to see the iron lady back. While were on about our Chinese saviors why dont we give one of our saviors of the past a ring ,Shanghai Check, he is always on the lookout for a good deal.

Dave wrote
at 13:05:07 on 16 August 2018
You know the idea of the Chinese taking over the rugby club may not be as far fetched as it seems. Could it be that the Chinese are trying to get their people interested in a new sport away from football? Football is dear to put on the telly, rugby is cheap.Could it be a new "rude sport" for the Chinese masses to be interested in,like the Duke of Bridgewater once refered to ? ( The Duke once said all his people were interested in was mass drunkeness and engaging in rude sports. I have often wondered what these rude sports were that the people of Worsley got up to.)

Mary ferrer wrote
at 05:45:43 on 16 August 2018
Well they will have a bloody fighting on their hands if they think they will get the Mansion. Would make a nice Casino,I dont think so.I know that lot up at the civic would sell their mother if it put a few bob in the till.

bob wrote
at 19:58:05 on 15 August 2018
The Chinese already own property in Eccles and the surrounding district

Bob the regular wrote
at 12:31:26 on 15 August 2018
Comrade Dennett can be forgiven for thinking this inrush of Chineese capital is on its way because the peoples republics desire to help their fellow left wing bretheren like him. It is not.The chineese government are the most ruthless money making regime ever concocted.Long gone are the days when Chairman mao was in charge, and the chineese all rode bicycles to work waving the little red book around. Dennett was not even born when Nixon went to China to show the commies how to get rich quick. They can run rings round Rees mogg and his stupid mates in the city. What they are doing is simply getting rid of their vast dollar holdings to buy real assets, leaving mugs like our city experts and financial institutions with huge piles of worthless paper. The debts of America are 1000 times that of Greece, yet it has only 30 times the number of people. On a dollar bill it says "in god we trust". Well do we. When the dollar hits the fan we will all know about it.

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