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FURY AS SALFORD COUNCILLORS REJECT VULNERABLE ADULTS CUTS CALL IN
 

Star date: 24th July 2014

SALFORD PEOPLE UNANIMOUSLY IGNORED BY SCRUTINY COUNCILLORS AS £4.4MILLION CUTS GET GO AHEAD

"It's gobsmacking and you would really question your faith in Salford City Council's political system today" Steve North, Salford City UNISON

There was fury yesterday as six councillors sitting on Salford Council's Budget Scrutiny Committee unanimously voted to reject a `call in' to reconsider over £4million of cuts to services for vulnerable people in the city.

The call in was brought by three Labour councillors, who, backed by service users, argued against the cuts on both financial, safety and moral grounds. But UNISON's Steve North said afterwards, "We put our faith in the democratic process, were patronised and then told unanimously that we needn't have bothered."

Full details here…


Having just heard that six councillors (five Labour and one Tory) sitting on Salford Council's Budget Scrutiny Committee had unanimously rejected a call in of £4.4million cuts to services for the city's most vulnerable people, Steve North, Salford City UNISON's branch secretary, was shaking his head in furious disbelief…

"It's gobsmacking and you would really question your faith in Salford City Council's political system today to actually even be able to listen to the views of ordinary people and respond accordingly to the questions that people have asked" he fumed.

"There was no attempt to talk about anything other than `Oh isn't this terrible, what a sorry state Salford Council is in'" he scorned "Undoubtedly there are huge cuts from central Government but they think that's an excuse to poorly manage council finances, make terrible decisions and not consider the views of the people who work in those services and use those services.

"They think that blaming the Government allows them to do anything they want to do, and that we somehow have to accept it because cuts are a reality" he added "Well actually people went in there today and didn't say `Don't vote for cuts', they said `Look within your own finances, here are some discrepancies that we have highlighted and need you to look at, please will you spend just a little bit of time looking at them and considering them?' And the answer unanimously was `No'."

The call in had been brought by three Labour councillors – Peter Wheeler, Brendan Ryan and Paul Brocklehurst – and, backed by around two dozen services users, workers and campaigners, Councillor Wheeler began his anti-cuts argument by asking the Scrutiny Committee to "bear in mind that there is a contingency of over £6million for savings that cannot be achieved".

He went through each of cuts to specific services - Passenger Transport Unit, Housing Options/Supported Tenancy Service, Welfare Rights and Debt Advice, Care On Call and Mental Health Floating Support – detailing safety issues, giving alternative proposals and even documenting increased costs to the Council as a result of the `savings'.

Meanwhile, the Salford Council team - led by decision maker Peter Connor, Assistant Mayor for Adult Social Services, and Sue Lightup, Strategic Director of Community Health and Social Care - stuck to the four areas of `process' as she saw it… `Openness', `Clarity', Due Consideration of Alternative Options' and `Wednesbury Unreasonableness'which basically allowed them to duck most of the issues.

…Officers talked about the scope of the consultation on the cuts – without making reference to the fact that they had ripped up most of its results (see previous Salford Star article – click here and click here)

…Officers talked about the "cost benefit analysis" of cuts to the Transport Unit – without answering parents' concerns about the safety of their sons and daughters, with evidence already of wheelchair users being dangerously transported in taxis. The only response to concerns was that "It did not stack up financially".

When councillors on the scrutiny committee asked questions about cuts to Welfare Rights and Debt Advice, officers admitted that "There will be gaps" but "these issues were taken into account when the decision was made". Er, so that was alright then…

The Scrutiny Committee, having heard all the arguments - including a mother of two disabled adults pleading "Do we have to wait for a tragedy before you wake up?" – then unanimously voted to reject the call in.

The Scrutiny Committee was made up of councillors John Warmisham, George Wilson, Charlie McIntyre, Val Burgoyne, John Ferguson (Labour Party), and Les Turner (Conservative Party).

"Given the information they were presented with today, both from service users and from staff and from councillors, it is unbelievable to me that they've come back with the decision to endorse these proposals" said Steve North

"It was absolutely clear was that there was no attempt to respond to the financial questions that were raised" he explained "We know that Salford's reserves are over the minimum reserve limit. We know that there was a £6million contingency fund built into the original budget document. We believe there was an underspend in the health improvement service of between £250,000 and £300,000. Those questions were never answered and no response was given to those points.

"The Chair made the comment today that we were the best behaved public gallery that they've had at a Council meeting, and it's true" he added "We talked beforehand and said that we weren't going in there to disrupt the meeting or heckle people – we wanted to go in there and very professionally put across the points about the services, which we can because we work in them or use them, and we did that.

"We put our faith in the democratic process and we were patronised and then told unanimously that we needn't have bothered" he fumed "And that will be the resounding echo from this meeting…

"When I tell people what has happened their response will be, understandably `What is the point of observing Salford City Council's political process when you get to sit in a meeting room for two and a half hours with the pretence that you're being listened to, to be patronised in the process of doing it, only to find out that, unanimously, none of what you said was taken on board'."

See also previous related Salford Star articles...

* Mums of disabled adults tells mayor Ian Stewart to spend a day with them - click here

* Salford Council cuts opposed by Labour councillors - click here

* Last chance to stop Salford Mayor's cuts to transport for disabled - click here

* How Salford Council treats vulnerable peole fighting cuts - click here

*Salford's new D.I.Y. Politics - click here

 

Main photo by Steven Speed shows some service users and cmpaigners who attended the meeting on the steps of the Civic Centre

Meg wrote
at 15:50:01 on 14 August 2014
Ian Stewart must have a guilty conscience, I thought he was a man of the people, but he's just out for self.He says one thing to get in power and then does a complete u turn. You know the saying you get what you deserve, well I can't wait for Ian Stewart to get his just desserts.
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at 10:58:45 on 25 July 2014
Ahwww-"The Chair made the comment today that we were the best behaved public gallery that they've had at a Council meeting," Best behaved? Who on earth are they talking about-a bunch of naughty kids or the people they are elected to represent?? You just couldn't make it up-who makes up these rules-they certainly aren't designed to allow for public engagement-more like a controlling mechanism to avoid the city leaders being shown up as the bad managers they are...They are totally out of their depth, their money management skills are nil and the shouldn't be let loose with the money in the Cities coffers, they're like kids running wild in a sweet shop. Core services should be at the heart of the agenda and a moratorium placed on non essential projects until SCC learn basic housekeeping skills
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Jill Royle wrote
at 10:58:41 on 25 July 2014
Re: Comments above. The bottom line is our elected council are supposed to care and act on behalf of their comunity. This council appears to me a lay person NOT to care. The most vulnerable are under constant threat. The cost of the loss of these vital services is not known as it is in the future but we will not forget who brought them about. How the scutiny committee can listen to the personal stories of those who it will affect and then calmly dismiss the fears with counter arguments regarding money which again in the long term is FALSE economy, beggars belief. Also some of the figures seemed very suspect indeed (taxi's versus transport system) tell me councillors what price do you put on your cchildrens/grandchildrens safety day to day ? Those at the meeting heard that the safest way for a wheelchair user to travel in a black cab is back to back with the driver, and yet in this scenario the driver would not be able to observe the passenger and lets face it even if they could how quickley could they act, and what first aid skills would they have? If the passenger is placed side on in a taxi their spinal stability is under threat in the event of a collison. What hasn't been discussed is the fact that although this was a public meeting with the public apparently welcome is the fact that 'we' the public, were kept waiting outside for 20 mins in the heat and on,y 30 members of the public are ALLOWED! Even though the room we occupied had a partition and could have accomodated. So Salford - Elect us we need your vote - then shut up and look the other way ! In the year of the centenary of the first world war "we will remember you Salford council" for ALL the WRONG reasons!
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David Cameron wrote
at 07:01:53 on 25 July 2014
I can't understand people on here praising three labour councillors for calling this in, peter wheeler etc, these councillors would't be up for election next year would they and if they feel so strongly about what is going on and not just on this subject, then why don't they resign from the Labour Party and go independent. I think these three labour councillors are disingenuous in their actions, especially councillor wheeler who's partner has put herself up for the position of MP, so want to distance them selves from the toxic Ian Stuart and the Labour Party. Remember people at the next election, anybody but labour. Don't be fooled by these labour councillors, they only have one interest and that's self interest.
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not happy wrote
at 22:56:16 on 24 July 2014
Why is this woman on this kind of money when the people of Salford are suffering with the cuts? And the rest of the so called Salford council Sue Lightup, on £133,000, Salford City Mayor on £69,000 and the rest of the cronies at Salford City Council DO NOT care about vulnerable people - they can afford not to! Connor Peter £10,080 £13,011 0 £23,091 Hinds Bill £10,080 £13,011 0 £23,091 Lancaster David £10,080 £14,637 0 £24,717 Merry John £10,080 £28,185 0 £38,265 Murphy Joseph £10,080 £13,011 0 £23,091 Warmisham John £10,080 £13,011 0 £23,091 Antrobus Derek £10,080 £13,011 0 £23,091 Burgoyne Eric £10,080 £16,570 0 £26,650 Boshell Paula £10,080 £13,011 0 £23,091 What our caring sharing Mayor said in his manifesto; Quote; we need to ensure vital services that help the elderly' the vulnerable and our children are protected. And we need high quality educational facilities that will equip our citizens for the 21st Century; Nice words Mr Mayor but the truth is YOU are not doing it, you are closing these places down, and the elderly and the vulnerable are going to fend for them self’s because of all the cuts
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Feeling disappointed wrote
at 22:38:58 on 24 July 2014
I was at the meeting supporting all the causes! It was mentioned on more than one occasion that many of the services being cut would have massive financial impacts on the NHS and it was suggested that the NHS or the Health Improvement Service be approached to consider giving funding. I am very surprised that it was just voted through without this option being looked into!! Well done to all the observers and those that spoke so heartfeltly and articulately!!! I was appaulled by Councillor Peter Connors politcal comment, the one and only time he spoke in the meeting was terrible and I am glad the Chair raised this with him!! Its a very very sad time for the people of Salford. I very much got the impression that the decision had been made before the meeting started! Well done though to the Councillors who called this in, if only the rest of them would have the balls to do it!!
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joe oneill wrote
at 22:38:10 on 24 July 2014
So what's your answer Paul sell enough copies of the socialist worker to subsidise the loss/ you can shout all the abuse you want in council and wave your banner but the realty is no one will take you serious I can't remember one serious answer to budget cuts and financial shortfalls but in your socialist never world does it really matter?
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the end wrote
at 22:37:40 on 24 July 2014
ref Noreen Bailey 'always been a labour person' = well there lies the problem, the people of Salford keep voting them in - its your own fault. no doubt the same will happen agin next year. This council have plenty of money, they just spend it badly. They can keep ballmib government cuts, but do you all live beyond your means? thats waht the last Labour Government did.
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noreen bailey wrote
at 11:33:08 on 24 July 2014
hi Steve what a shambles this council is what did the chairman think he was going to be met by a bunch of screaming idiots that don't give a damn well let me tell them we are some of Salfords best who have commonsence and respect for others we have one aim in life and that is to put in place the things that our special ones need for when we are not able to care anymore as much as we hate to have to think like this it is a must because when we no longer can fight who will make sure that the things that our sons and daughters need are in place for them' at the meeting with the council I looked at every councillor in the eyes and not one could look at me I after the meeting had finished I went to speak with one of them and I was so disgusted at this person half way through a sentence they just turned and walked away with no sorry or anything if this is the actions of our council god help us all but how rude was this person I am not only about this but other things that has been said by this same person going to put a formal complaint because like I said before how can someone so ignorant be allowed to say what is right and wrong as to where the money goes I have always been a labour person but I can honestly say I need to see a great improvement before my x goes in their little box ,also I can assure them that my fight is not over yet I will fight this mayor and his band of merry men to let them know how much they are all hated I might be just a silly mum who they want to go away but this lady is not for moving but you know what they say a womans scorn and hell hath no fury like an angry mum
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zil wrote
at 11:33:03 on 24 July 2014
This City is heading for ANARCHY .
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Paul Gerrard wrote
at 11:32:58 on 24 July 2014
Please, no 'I told you so' from Mr. Lib-Dem / Green / UKIP. What are we supposed to remember from which of Joe's multiple identities? But Labour councillors are the real culprits here, asking anodine questions of the officers they have trained to give them the responses they want to hear - 'it doesn't stack up financially', etc. Manager Dave Clements seemed to be pleased he had fiddled the figures so that taxis look no more expensive than the council's own passenger transport system. But for that you get an escort too! the vital ingredient in assuring safe and contented service users. On their heads be it if a wheelchair user is injured in a taxi when the driver keeps his eyes on the road where they should be and doesn't notice the seizure happening to his passenger. And how many people will slip into debt without council staff to help them process their claims and receive everything they are entitled to? How many more City West and Salix tenants will be running up arrears unnecesarily? Labour is politically bankrupt in this city - even when one of their own councillors invites them to pause and consider they plough on regardless. Yesterday will come back to haunt them.
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Paul Quinn T U S C wrote
at 11:32:53 on 24 July 2014
Scrutiny The role of Overview and Scrutiny is to look at the services and issues that affect the lives of people in Salford It’s about listening to the concerns of local people and to check how the council and other organisations are performing and where necessary seek improvement. They allow the community, via their ward councillors and community committees to have, a greater say in council matters by making enquiries into matters of local concern. Scrutiny committees also monitor decisions of the cabinet a greater say in council matters by making enquiries into matters of local concern. Today the 23/7/14 this did not happen because the call in was over ruled and the cuts they tried to stop just went a head. This was the cuts in the Adult transport services. They did not listen to the people involved in the cuts; there was no mention of health and safety to person in a wheelchair or has the council calls them units. So much for scrutiny, so much for a Salford labour council, so much for helping and protecting the needy and the vulnerable, don’t forget Mr. Mayor there’s an election next year and I will be standing against the labour party again and I think a few more will as well.
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Michael Felse wrote
at 11:32:39 on 24 July 2014
I praise my trade union, Unison for taking part in this important challenge. This is not a defeat for Cllrs Wheeler, Ryan and Brocklehurst but a win in showing they made sure the life impacting matters were decided upon by the Salford Council Scrutiny Committee. Now the challenge has reached journey's end it means all Salford Councillors are bound to share the blame for suffering caused by effects of the cuts. I urge my Unison to offer support to any residents that suffer from the cuts and help people make compensation claims against Salford Council.
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joe oneill wrote
at 07:57:56 on 24 July 2014
Steve to be honest what did people expect time after time I sat with the Liberal Democrats under Norman Owen our call ins where put in place, the case put forward to Labour this when Money was not in short supply but from the time you walked in the room you knew Labour had control and did not give a damn on your view or that of the people. We have put Labour in this position and if people had no clue that they follow like sheep whipped into submission then they are naïve and disserve little better, without serious opposition nothing will change.
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