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SALFORD COUNCIL ALLOWS BNP TO MEET AT GARBAGE DEPOT
 

Star date: 13th June 2013

SALFORD UNITES TO KICK OUT BNP FASCISTS

"Wherever it is allowed a voice, it uses that voice to preach bigotry and division" Steven North Salford City UNISON

After cancelling a BNP meeting at Salford Civic Centre a few weeks ago, Salford Council has allowed the fascist BNP to hold an election meeting tonight at the city's garbage depot - Turnpike House, on Eccles New Road.

A protest has been called by Unite Against Fascism and Salford City UNISON, while Salford City Mayor Ian Stewart has been urged to ban the meeting.

Full details here…


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"A bunch of idiots…" former BNP councillor

In advance of Salford's local council by-election in Weaste and Seedley on June 20th, Salford Council has allowed the fascist BNP to hold a meeting tonight at Turnpike House on Eccles New Road – home of the city's garbage depot.

A protest has been called for 7pm outside the venue by Greater Manchester Unite Against Fascism and Salford City UNISON, which is urging Salford City Mayor, Ian Stewart, to impose a last minute ban on the BNP meeting to send out the message that "they are not welcome in a Salford City Council building or anywhere else."

An attempt by the BNP to hold a meeting in the city two weeks ago was stopped following a wave of complaints and objections but now the Council states that it has a legal duty to provide an election venue. 

However, in a letter to Ian Stewart and the Council's Salford's Strategic Director of Customer and Support Services, Martin Vickers, Salford City UNISON branch secretary, Steven North, points out that the Council has other duties to the people of Salford…

"As an employer, Salford Council has a number of policies in place to challenge discrimination" he writes "As a provider of services, it is legally bound to ensure equality of delivery. The BNP is an organisation that values none of these things.

"Wherever it is allowed a voice, it uses that voice to preach bigotry and division" he adds "We only need to look at the response of Nick Griffin to the hospitalisation of Nelson Mandela last week to understand what will be discussed at a BNP meeting."

Two years ago, the Salford Star published photos of Salford BNP activists playing at being terrorists during a party camp in Yorkshire. The pictures showed local organiser, Gary Tumulty - whose partner, Kay Pollitt, is standing as a candidate in the Weaste and Seedley election – sporting a replica gun, wearing a mask and, er, showing his arse.

Following publication of the photos, David Exley, a former BNP councillor for Heckmondwike, said: "When I joined the BNP, I joined what I thought was a serious political party with serious aims and people who wanted to achieve those aims by democratic means.

"But all the people who have tried to do that have been got rid of by Nick Griffin" he added "All the quality people have now gone and, as you can see in these pictures, we're left with a bunch of idiots. I'm glad I'm out of the BNP." (to see full article click here)

Salford Councillor, Howard Balkind, who will be joining the anti-BNP protest tonight, says: "As a fascist movement, I feel that the BNP have no connection with the British people and we must all act, in unity, to make sure that such a connection cannot grow."

PROTEST AGAINST THE FASCIST BNP
Thursday 13th June 7pm
Turnpike House, 631 Eccles New Road, Salford M50 1SW


The full list of candidates standing for the Weaste and Seedley local council by-election…

Mary Ferrer – Green Party
Valerie Mary Kelly – Liberal Democrats
Adam Kennaugh - Conservative
Kay Pollitt - BNP
Terry Simmons - Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition
Matt Simpson – Independent
Alan Dominic Valentine – Independent
Paul Wilson – Labour
Glyn Alan Wright - UKIP

Fat End Of The Wedge wrote
at 1:09:40 PM on Saturday, June 15, 2013
Sorry, forget to mention: You said: Fact: The Council did provide a venue for the meeting - the BNP cancelled it. Your article said: After CANCELLING (my emphasis) a BNP meeting at Salford Civic Centre a few weeks ago, Salford Council has allowed the fascist BNP to hold an election meeting tonight at the city's garbage depot - Turnpike House, on Eccles New Road. So Salford council have breached the act. And as reported in the other article "the BNP ran scared this afternoon" - hinting that they were intimidated into cancelling their legal right to hold the re-arranged meeting.
 
Fat End Of The Wedge wrote
at 1:07:20 PM on Saturday, June 15, 2013
In the interests of democracy, accountability and all those other things that were born in the city (you may recognise those words) why don't you publish the withheld reply and substantiate the claims you make against it, instead of resorting to name calling? Then let the people decide. Fact (real one): The BBC admitted bias in its reporting.
 
Salford Star wrote
at 1:25:03 AM on Saturday, June 15, 2013
See Fat End of the Wedge comments below..We certainly will print this as a last `goodbye'. To answer your points. Fact: The Council did provide a venue for the meeting - the BNP cancelled it. Fact: Reporting a demo against Israel is not `supporting it', it's reporting it. Many organisations feel sympathy for Palestinians - that doesn't make them all `fascists'. What does your statement mean - "we all know where things ended up last time the Jews were at fault, don't we?". You talking about Jewish people being at fault for the Holocaust? If so you're a disgrace. The comments we didn't print were either out and out lies, unsubstantiated, barely disguised racism or were going on about how great and humanitarian the BNP is - another odd statement, especially if you're an asylum seeker or fighting the cuts! As for definitions of fascism, we're a community mag not an intellectual debating society - but be assured that fascism uses radical language to get popular, and then ultimately destroys working class organisations like trade unions. For us, fascists are bosses' men, doing the dirty work of big business - divide and rule. They are big business's boot boys - and have no place in a community magazine. Neither does racism, no matter how thinly disguised. The Salford Star is fiercely independent but does not exist to promote ideas or organisations that are detrimental to the community's interests.
 
Fat End Of The Wedge wrote
at 12:40:36 AM on Saturday, June 15, 2013
"See Fat End of the Wedge's comments and others not printed" - how do the public see 'others not printed' and make up their own minds, if they are not printed. Why is questioning your version of events a 'political platform for the BNP'? I really do feel let down by you Salford Star, I have many of the printed copies from back when you could produce them, and long looked forward to their return. Now you really are no better than the council that you so frequently criticise for hiding the truth. You recently published an article about the ERS criticising the one party councils, like Salford. The BNP claim on their website that the withholding of venues is a "clear breach of the peoples representation act sections 95 to 98, which states candidates in an election can hold meetings in a public building" - if this is true, then you should be using that against the council with the support of the ERS. I note that you also promoted an anti-Israel demonstration recently, you seem quite aligned with the BNP on this issue, supporting Palestine that is. No Star of David in that article! Does that make you 'fascists'? I'm still waiting for you to explain "Understand what fascism actually is" - but we all know where things ended up last time the Jews were at fault, don't we? I realise you aren't likely to publish this reply to my previously un-published reply, but as a farewell letter it brings some closure to our relationship. And there was no one left to speak for me...
 
Salford Star wrote
at 1:44:56 PM on Friday, June 14, 2013
See Fat End of the Wedge's comments and others not printed - please note that the Salford Star is not a political platform for the BNP - the Star is here for the whole community. If you don't like it then *bye bye*
 
Fat End Of The Wedge wrote
at 1:41:21 PM on Friday, June 14, 2013
I have lost all faith in Salford Star to report in a fair and unbiased manner. UAF, Unison et al are the real 'fascists' by denying the democratic process. At least Salford Star had the decency to list the BNP candidate in the full list of candidates. I am a former supporter of Friends of the Earth - former due to their 'fascist' disregard of an elected member of the European Parliament (Nick Griffin MEP) when they listed North West regional MEP's to write to regarding an important issue, and included all but Mr. Griffin - something that was not pointed out at the time by FoE, that they had excluded him due to his party being the BNP (I complained and wss given that reason) - a clear disregard for democracy, and also the potential support of that MEP in the particular issue that FoE wanted to confront. Bye bye FoE, I do not support 'fascists'. Bye bye Salford Star - very close...
 
Salfordresident wrote
at 3:27:47 PM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
I woudlnt say we do actually live in a democracy! We tend to be predicted too these days. We need change, real change as these bandits will finish off the UK. I have never voted, but a personal experience with Social Services who played by a rule set out by Labour in 2004 has made me realise, it has made me realise we can make a change to the country that we live in. We can use our vote in the hope laws/procedures are changed/removed as they sometimes the people of this country should be left to make choices without interference from bandits without any real life experience. VOTE UKIP people, they may only be the ones who can bring change.
 
Mr Charlton wrote
at 3:27:23 PM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
Commentator 1 : "Oh here he is, Stewart has the ball and he runs down the left wing, he shoots, ohhhh he loses it and GIVES the ball away for Labour, and the loonys score" Commentator 2 : "Steve, I just can't belive that silly Stewart let the opposition right winger take the ball off him and place it in the back of the net" Commentator 1 : " Unbelivable Fred, Fergie will give him a good kicking tonight and may I just say, he deserves it" Commentator 2 : "Maybe it's time for Salford council to be relegated, the team is obviously not up to scratch" ........................... Just thought I would put it all in a way that maybe Mr Stewart can understand?
 
Mr Centre wrote
at 11:16:35 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
Are this council and UNISON f*cking stupid? By banning them from the civic last week all they did was give them more publicity, if they had let them have their little get together then all 6 people in Salford who support the BNP would have turned up spouted shit then gone home. What do we have now, we have the council doing a very publicised U-turn because to not do so would be unlawful and I bet the BNP are loving it all the free publicity. Best thing to do tonight would be ignore the fact that any meeting is taking place at all, don't turn up and protest etc, just do like you were told in school "ignore the nasty boy". That's what I do when other political idiots like TU&SC, Labour etc have their little gatherings.
 
Mike Skeffington wrote
at 11:16:27 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
I have to agree with the posts by, Bernard and Matt, above. Salford council was wrong to deny the BNP a platform last week just as they would be wrong to deny them tonight. I won't go through all the rhetoric again about this country being a democracy: that's sometimes debatable. The facts are indisputable, the BNP is a legal political party with the same rights under law as any other legal political party. I am not or ever would be a supporter of the BNP, however, what I do support is it's freedom to campaign as a political party. Abu Hamza and other Muslim clerics preached hatred on the streets and in mosques; Muslim extremists screamed vitriolic curses to British troops and their dead comrades in Wootton Bassett. These are the things which fuel the BNP and other far right groups. All these subjects need to be talked about and challenged in the open arena. The BNP must be defeated by reason as all extremist groups should. It's arguments must be challenged but, those arguments must be heard first.
 
mary ferrer wrote
at 11:15:08 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
I say, just let them get on with it. The more fuss we make the more publicity they get.
 
Peter power wrote
at 11:14:55 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
Above are some pictures of terrorists groups. You maybe up for libel comparing a political party to terrorists. Everyone has the right to an opinion but may never be always correct or agreed with that's why we live in a democracy
 
S Hughes wrote
at 11:14:33 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
I agree with Matt and Bernard, they are a party and have support and must be allowed to speak, if we don't it is the thin end of the wedge. They are no worse that this current labour council. Let them have their say and people can make their own minds up.
 
Bernard Brough wrote
at 3:56:02 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
As odious as I find this bunch banning them or their meetings can not be condoned. We live in a democracy and as such any party, however harebrained their ideas must be given a platform to espouse those ideas. Who decides who may or may not use Council property for political meetings? The only way of combating such lunatic ideas is to get them out in the open & win the argument. Or do we just start burning books that disagree with our political views?
 
Matt wrote
at 3:55:53 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2013
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say the council are right to let the BNP use council property. We live in a democracy and have the right to freedom of speech, now I don't agree with a single word uttered by the BNP and recognize them for what they are. But they are a "legitimate" political party which try and represent people like themselves and they have the same rights as everyone else, and if they want to get together for an angry rant that is allowed by law, and what they say is also allowed up to a point. The council were wrong in not allowing them to meet at the Civic centre last week as it just gave the BNP more ammo against the council. If you ban the BNP from the democratic process it's the thin end of the wedge, because next it will be other 'fringe' parties such as UKIP, TU&SC, Lib Dems or independents. It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. Sir Winston Churchill
 
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