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GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE AND CRIME COMMISSIONER ELECTIONS
 

Star date: 11th November 2012

ANYONE NOTICED THERE'S AN ELECTION THIS WEEK?

Greater Manchester Police and Crime Commissioner Election
Thursday 15th November 7am-10pm

This Thursday sees the first ever election for a Police and Crime Commissioner for the whole of Greater Manchester, including Salford. No-one we know has had a leaflet through their door, nor could any of the candidates be arsed to send us a press release. And then they'll complain that no-one voted. A pathetic state of democracy. So why should we bother?

Full story here…


Shhhhhhh – don't tell anyone. There's an election this week which could have massive implications around privatising the police and the future of public safety.

The ConDem Government wants police forces to sell contracts to the private sector to run services like crime investigation, forensics, 999 call handling, custody and detention. The privatisation is being pushed on purely ideological and cost-cutting grounds. And it will be the community that will suffer from the consequences of poorer services, as private companies cut back to increase profit.

A recent poll by ComRes for UNISON showed that almost two thirds (62%) of the public oppose privatisation of police services, and 50% said that they would trust the police less if a private company ran their local services. More than half (53%) reported that they would feel less safe if a private company were answering 999 calls in their area, while nearly half (46) thought that accountability of the police force to the British public would get worse. If only on this issue it is worth voting.

So where do the candidates stand on privatisation? And who are the candidates?

The candidates are Matt Gallagher (Liberal Democrats), Tony Lloyd (Labour Party), Michael William Winstanley (Conservative Party), Steven Marcus Woolfe (UKIP) and Roy Warren (Independent).

None of the candidates have bothered to send out a press release saying why people should vote for them – and we had to go to a national website and tap in a Salford postcode to find what they are going to do if they are elected…

Ex cop Matt Gallagher (Lib Dem) doesn't mention the privatisation but does state that "he knows where there is waste and inefficiency that can be tackled, freeing up officers to focus on crime fighting and putting more officers on the beat". Is this shorthand for `privatisation'?

Tony Lloyd (Labour) pledges to "stand up for communities against the Tories' 20 per cent cuts to policing and the loss of nearly 3,000 police and civilian posts in Greater Manchester (and 16,000 police officers nationally)" and to "keep police on the beat not hand policing over to private companies. Our police are not for sale."

Roy Warren (Independent) doesn't mention privatisation but states "Under present financial conditions I understand the need for cuts and the fact that we have to do more for less." Is this shorthand for `privatisation'?

Michael William Winstanley (Conservative) doesn't mention privatisation but does put himself in the dock… "For the first time ever one person will be responsible for policing and crime". Wow! One person responsible for crime in Greater Manchester? Why doesn't he just hang himself then the crime will be gone?

Steven Marcus Woolfe (UKIP) doesn't state anything on privatisation but he does say "No to…the persecution of motorists as driving cash machines". It took us a few minutes to work that out…

More fun statements from the Greater Manchester Police and Crime Commissioner election candidates can be found at www.choosemypcc.org.uk

People wanting to receive a printed version of the candidates' waffle by post can order it online or call 0800 1070708.

We hope everyone in Salford has now been inspired to get out there and vote on Thursday 15th November. Polling stations will be open from 7am to 10pm.  You get to vote for a first and a second choice candidate – if you can find two worth bothering with…


 

Steve wrote
at 5:58:06 AM on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Having now gone and read it... very interesting as usual god damn you!!!
 
Steve wrote
at 5:57:39 AM on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Fantastic choice for the illustration... Couldn't be bothered reading the article though! ;)
 
Joanne Cavanagh wrote
at 1:56:24 PM on Monday, November 12, 2012
Actually Roy Warren states on www.policeelections.com "I see Greater Manchester as remaining totally independent with no political interference from Westminster and no privatisation of Greater Manchester Police."
 
Lee Craven MBE wrote
at 9:57:23 AM on Monday, November 12, 2012
Had nothing yet on who's who, and no voting Cards, What's the point in voting for someone you don't know, ok if like me you have Internet that's ok, but for those who don't have the facility cannot look up , If Salford normally have a low turn out at the local elections,then this will be a much worse turnout.
 
Annoyed wrote
at 9:56:33 AM on Monday, November 12, 2012
I will not vote for anything to do with this police force when the majority of them remains corrupt. And no, I have never been arrested, though I have been threatened with arrest by law breaking officers who do not know the law.
 
Steve wrote
at 6:27:52 AM on Monday, November 12, 2012
The most sensible vote in the Police Commissioner elections is 'none of the above' ie a spoilt ballot paper. The more spoilt papers there are the stronger the voice against this policy.
 
Swubble wrote
at 6:27:46 AM on Monday, November 12, 2012
JUST ANOTHER JOB CREATED FOR A POLITICIAN-SHITE TAXPAYER -FUNDED POCKET -STUFFER . DO WE REALLY WANT ANOTHER SHITE LIKE MAYOR GREEDY ? WE SHOULD ALL SHOW OUR CONTEMPT FOR THIS FARCE AND NOT VOTE !
 
T. Garten wrote
at 6:27:20 AM on Monday, November 12, 2012
Joe is right DON'T VOTE FOOK 'EM ALL ! Give the shites NO MANDATE !
 
joseph O'Neill wrote
at 11:51:01 PM on Sunday, November 11, 2012
How are we expected to vote for some one to do a job who does not even have a Job discription. The Tories are selling us short with this one,what worries me is how the people of Salford could be voting for a Labour Politicion on the lines of Stewart and we have all seen what a failure that was. Can you imagine the man sat at the town hall planning how we get more out of the four PCSOS who police the city?we don't have the coppers private companies miss manage our prisons and half the coppers that are left are on the sick.Shootings,stabbings and drugs are rife in Salford and with the cuts we may see what's left of the force sharing push bikes to get around the city. I say don't vote and who ever gets in will have no mandate make the tories policy fail at birth.
 
Paul wrote
at 11:50:02 PM on Sunday, November 11, 2012
We've had a leaflet off Labour in Pendlebury & that's it. To be fair to Labour, they do leaflet round here for all the elections. Other parties do nothing, unless it's the one that goes.out by royal mail.
 
Salford Star wrote
at 11:49:45 PM on Sunday, November 11, 2012
See Steve Middleton's comment below...not poor journalism, piss poor candidates. The Salford Star never tells anyone how to vote. Although we do wish we had told people to vote against the mayoral system! As the article states, the majority of people don't want privatisation of the police and if the candidates gave a toss they would have mentioned they were against privatisation. Not our fault Labour was the only one to say it loud and clear. Anyone can say `We're going to sort crime out'...If you'd read any articles recently you might note that the Star is hardly a cheerleader for the Labour Party, or any political party for that matter.
 
Steve Middleton wrote
at 11:36:34 PM on Sunday, November 11, 2012
By implication, we should all vote Labour based on this "story" shouldn't we? You start your piece by talking about suggested privatisation plans, then list very brief excerpts from each of the candidates manifestos, where only one SPECIFICALLY mentions he is against privatisation. A poor example of journalism. You can do better Stephen.
 
Mark Armstrong wrote
at 1:59:22 PM on Sunday, November 11, 2012
There should be a minimum turnout clause for a candidate to be chosen, the mayoral election was a farce with only 18% bothering to tear themselves away from the TV, Bingo, weed or other. Scrap it as it will benefit no one other than the labour candidate who win and receive a ridiculous salary for doing sweet FA
 
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