Star date: 22nd January 2012


Last Friday, Salford man Zac Challinor got five and a half year's in jail for torching the BBC Radio Manchester car at Salford Precinct. It was the lengthiest sentence doled out for any rioter. But, so far, most media hasn't bothered to report it.

Anne Czernik was in court for the Salford Star, reports on the background to the case and asks whether both the sentence and the crime was symbolic of the city's polarity with MediaCityUK…

Full story here…

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A Rainy Night in Salford

Just another rainy night in Salford as Zac Challinor makes his way to his cell, and the faces of the women he has left behind are wet with tears. In the congestion, thousands of cars pushed and nudged their way into the ribbon of light illuminating the M062. Eight lanes of traffic in all directions has ground to a halt, the rules of the road abandoned. Cars and commuters stretched into the distance like marching ants.  A neon bill board in the wasteland reads `11,265 deserving cases in Manchester received funds from the National Lottery. Changing Lives'.

Not in Salford.

Writers have been documenting social conditions in Salford for centuries and the story has remained the same. As darkness beings to fall, crowds of youths gather around Salford Shopping City as they have done for decades.

There are many explanations for what took place last summer but the biggest clue to what happened in Salford is the interview Challinor gave to a probation officer on 19th January. Challinor described being influenced by the crowds who were working together. The Day seemed like a real live game of Grand Theft Auto and he said he felt excited and scared.

The majority of those brought before the courts for offences related to civil unrest during the summer are young men like Zac Challinor and Stephen Carter. Like Carter, another of Salford's sons serving time for riot related crime, Challinor was homeless, jobless and estranged from his family at the time of the riot.

A breakdown in his relationship had separated him from the daughter he clearly adores. Profoundly dyslexic, Challinor was suspended from school and left without qualifications. Despite this handicap, he was in full time employment for all but six months during the past seven years and worked as a volunteer with the PDSA in Chorley. Never holding one job for any period of time, Challinor took various low paid jobs across the city. 

His offending behaviour started early, and by the age of 21 he had nine convictions for 15 crimes. Challinor drank heavily and had several convictions for violent disorder. His daughter was born in Feb 2010 and Challinor sold his computer games to raise money. Following the break up of this relationship in Mar 2011, he returned to live with his mother, described by Judge Foster as a woman of impeccable character who works for the NHS. 

On 1st April, Challinor walked out, to begin months of couch hopping. His mother confirmed she had been unable to cope with his lifestyle. Shortly after this, Challinor attempted suicide. Without the stability of family life, Challinor was living what Judge Foster termed 'an itinerant and unsatisfactory life' and was not coping with the rift between himself and the women who loved him. Challinor's life became increasingly chaotic posting `love my lil girl I do she's the only fing that keeps me going'. On 5th August, after a day out with his daughter, Challinor posted he had a lovely time and was off to bed. The little girl often slept beside him. 

At midnight on 9th August, Challinor posted on Facebook that he was going to see what was happening in town. A friend warned him 'not to be a dickhead all your life'. Challinor wrote 'carnt wait till thes riots hit twn just been dwn ther not a fing goin on yet'.  Disappointed, he returned at 10 past one in the morning as no-one but 'pure heads there just wandering but no rioting'

Within hours, Salford streets erupted and Challinor was on the front line.

At 5pm, Challinor threw a coin at lines of police in riot gear battling with youths in Brydon Close. Hundreds of youths overturned a BBC Radio Manchester car in Heywood Way. Challinor excitedly suggested 'come on lets set it on fire' and lit the match. As smoke rose over Salford, the mob made their way to LIDL, smashing through the shutters. Challinor was captured on CCTV with armfuls of aerosols. Finally, Challinor aimed a kick at William Hills in the precinct but for some reason stopped before the shutters were damaged around 9pm. Hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of  damage was attributed all or in part to Challinor's actions.

Challinor was on the run until arrested on New Years Day and posting stopped. He seemed relieved when police finally caught up with him and began posting new messages virtually every day. In his interview with police, he said 'I was just a knob'. He told the judge that 'it was inevitable that this day would come'. Drifting and aimless, no hope and no future, it was not inevitable but sadly foreseeable. He posted 'its good not bein wanted any more'.

Throughout the hearing, Challinor seemed to accept, and in many ways welcomed, a lengthy prison sentence. I wondered if this was a self fulfilling prophesy until I remembered that in Grand Theft Auto everyone gets their come uppance.

There can be no doubt that Challinor is paying the price for what the Court of Appeal described as the difficulty in applying sentencing guidelines to mass disorder. Judge Foster acknowledged both the Recorder and the decisions of the Court of Appeal in Carter's case.

Challinor's sentence is of importance even if he is not. Challinor received the lengthiest sentence of any rioter, which did not come as a shock to either Challinor, his barrister or anyone who has followed the riot cases over the past year.

What is surprising is the almost complete media blackout.

In recent months, Salford has been awash with journalists. No-one reported on Challinor's landmark sentence which will, like Carter's, form a bench mark for prosecutions taking place later this year. Within minutes of the BBC car being set on fire, images were being broadcast on Youtube. With their staff as the story, the BBC has shown little taste for broadcasting what was behind the destruction.
MediaCityUK has become the forbidden city for thousands of Salfordians denied employment, to the elderly who will be confined to their homes by the closure of day centres, to women forced to give birth on the kitchen floor because of the closure of Salford Royal maternity unit, to the people whose homes are being repossessed, to the families forced out by regeneration to make way for new housing that they cannot access, or the schools reducing  25% of the teaching staff.

...Repossession notices, redundancy notices, closure notices – no damn notice is paid to the conditions that have blighted Salford for years. The only notice given to those beyond the Media City walls warn of powers to disperse groups under the Anti Social Behaviour Act 2003 who seek to disrupt the brave new world.

As the marketing of Media City struggles to maintain the illusion of a cohesive community – `Our City, Your City' - the truth is that it's their city now and disaffected youth, the elderly, the sick or impoverished have been cast aside.

In his deliberations, Judge Foster recognised the symbolic value of the BBC Radio Manchester car and what it represented. Judge Gilbart said that 'Salford City Council have worked hard to get this city to its best foot forward, the achievements in regeneration have been substantial', and described the events of 9th August as heartbreaking.

As Zac Challinor made his way to a cell, a yellow plastic bag with the message Best of the Best slung over his shoulder, the irony was not lost.

The torching of the BBC car will never be seen as a symbol of working class struggle by the organisations at the interface of accelerated social change and the digital revolution.  But perhaps it should, as youths gather in shadows of the precinct with nothing to do, nowhere to go.

Just another rainy night in Salford.

Words and photo of Zac Challinor's mum by Anne Czernik

Main photo by Paul W


Stephen Carter wrote
at 5:04:45 AM on Wednesday, August 30, 2017
I am Stephen Carter and I am not a son of Salford.
Susan goulding wrote
at 4:16:26 AM on Saturday, May 10, 2014
As a family we do not condone what zac has done but he has and is still behind bars serving his time as he knows he should everybody deserves a second chance in life and the ppl who says he doesn't just think it might be 1 children what does wrong Next ,he's had a loving respected law abiding mother who has a respected job with the nhs stand by him like any loving mother would do for there child and I for 1 as his aunty applaud her for that it's not the person inside that hurts the most it's the family on the outside when they have to read all the dribble ppl write and I no ppl av there own thoughts on the matter but so does his family
Ged wrote
at 5:08:50 PM on Monday, April 7, 2014
How many years in prison will Maria Miller get ?
salford wrote
at 3:44:43 AM on Friday, March 9, 2012
You can all write what u like he is my friend new him all my life well all most yous don't no him you only now him as 1 of the riots. You wanna talk about something talk about how are country is so messed up.
Simon B wrote
at 12:56:13 PM on Thursday, March 8, 2012
I really like the Salford Star and it has used credible, campaigning journalism to good effect over the years. But I'm afraid this article is deeply misjudged on many levels.
AnnL wrote
at 10:19:18 PM on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I think the most insightful comment was made by Zac Challinor's mother 'please don't pass judgement on people you do not know, and remember, there but fot the grace of God go I". Who know what conditions come about to land a person in such a place and as his mother says he is accepting responsibility for his actions which is will serve him and society well. I try never to judge and instead am grateful life dealt me a better hand. I don't point my finger at others while there is work to do on myself.
Salford Star wrote
at 12:10:09 PM on Sunday, February 12, 2012
See Yvonne's comment below.. We did def publish your comment - it's three below this one. We also re-printed it in the Salford Evictions story because we thought it was so relevant. Hope this clears it up...
yvonne foster wrote
at 12:05:45 PM on Sunday, February 12, 2012
I wrote a comment as the mother of zac challinor in his defence but not condoning his actions but notice with disappointment that my comments have not been published. Zac obviously is not available to comment and felt I had to answer some of the comments you have published and feel that I have the right to be heard in his defence if this is a paper for public responsed then why was my comments not published? a very disappointed mother
Don Draper wrote
at 11:15:36 AM on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
This article is less a report and more proxy to attack the BBC and conflate this lad's undisputedly criminal actions with every grievance harboured by a cabal of unwashed dog on a rope anarchists. A little more editorial control is called for here I think otherwise I fear the Salford Star maybe highjacked by the rent a cause brigade at the expense of the Salford Star's hitherto reputation for balanced investagative reporting. Which agree with it or not gave the Star its credibility.Get a grip Lads.
mum wrote
at 12:43:44 PM on Saturday, February 4, 2012
david ash my son does not belong in a mental hospiatl. he is from salford not wythenshawe it is me that now lives in wythenshawe. he had a good up bringing and i work and have done all my life. he was just going through a bad patch in his life which he found it difficult to deal with. he accepts the consequences and is willing to pay the price. he will serve more than a couple of months. he has asked about doing some sort of course to equip him for findng work on release but nothing like that is done in strangeways yet i understood jail was supposed to rehabilitate the prople who go there. please dont pass judgement on people you dont know and just remembe there but for the grace of god go i
jj pwfelli wrote
at 2:04:14 AM on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Fred the Shred - I see where you are coming from only I worry that if the rule of the mob takes over then the mob will be in power. The mob may start out with good intentions. Its leaders may purport to be on the side of the people but as soon as they gain power the old corruption begins. I guess I have a real suspicion with the sort of people that are attracted to become political leaders or gain positions of power. I tend to agree with Billy Connolly who said something along the lines of "anybody who wants to become a politician is exactly the sort of person who should NOT become a politician". If the group who is most violent rises to the top and gains power I really worry about how they will treat their citizens once in power. Stalin's Russia is an obvious example but the current "revolution" in Egypt seems another example to keep an eye on. After the overthrow of the existing power a country can develop into anarchy and a civil war emerges with different groups desperate for power. Once a certain group reaches power (normally by violence) they realize the only way to instill order after the chaos of civil war is by repression and fear. In the USSR I believe that it was Lenin's original intention to gradually release the restrictions he had to impose after he gained power (restriction he had to impose to bring some degree of order whilst the country emerged from civil war). The problem was that Lenin soon died, and not all men are as good as Lenin, the restrictions he imposed became abused, strengthened instead of phased out and used against the people rather than for them. Stalin's anti-world system was then unleashed and able to reduce people to a level of slavery worse than under the Czar's. I know this is extreme example but I have come to agree with George Orwell that democracy is the only real hope. I know democracy has it's problems and is not ideal but it is probably the best tool we have to ensure a fairer country. The problem I see with the UK at the moment is that the Labour party has ceased to represent the people it is meant to. It is no longer an opposition, Labour IS the same as Tory. Another issue is the corporate manipulation and domination of our political system and mass media. Public opinion can be manipulated by a few extremely rich corporate/mass media bosses meaning democracy is flawed. It's difficult isn't it? Education is probably key. At least there's no banning of books, or websites which give another side of the coin (such as this site) well yet anyway. I'm just not convinced on the violence issue, I think there are cleverer, more subtle ways for people can get their voice heard. Anyway, thanks for your reply, interesting as ever putting the world to rights! - all the best.
Fred the Shed wrote
at 1:31:59 PM on Friday, February 3, 2012
You misunderstand . I do not advocate any failed economic system , only and end to the exploitation of the corrupt capitalist system . As regards violence , this will be imposed by the death-throes of those who rule this Mess UK as they viciously fight to continue to oppress , exploit and inpose their corrupt control over the People . I would much rather say ' can the People have a turn at running society now , because you corrupt capitalist scum , liars , cheats and traitors have created a Living Hell , please ? Can't see that working , somehow . I agree with Passive Resistance, and Ghandi was a great man , but how would it work ?
jj pwfelli wrote
at 11:06:51 AM on Friday, February 3, 2012
"Only a violent , bloody Revolution will improve the conditions of the workers . And the sooner , the better". I completely disagree. The current system uses money as a means of gaining power. The accumulation of money normally entails exploitation, fear, threats or actual violence. The system you propose (the violent revolution) uses exactly the same principles to gain power - fear, violence. The workers revolution simply differs by not waiting to accumulate money and simply moving straight on to violence before it has money. But in essence these paths to power are the same. The capitalist system and the communist system are both based on the rule of the most violent, those with the biggest voice, those who can dominate others and use fear and intimidation to get their own way. I will repeat - the capitalist gets power through amassing money, which requires fear, exploitation and violence/threats of violence. The "workers revolution" tries to achieve power by exactly the same ends. And hey presto, Communism/Marxism has successfully implanted the mentality and tactics of the capitalist into the workers. The workers have become the very thing they despise and wanted to see replaced. Any power structure based on violence, fear and exploitation will be rotten. Whether that be the capitalist system or its partner in crime the communist system. Both capitalism and communism although both appearing radically different are two sides of the same coin, quite literally blood brothers. Both use the abuse of power to achieve their ends. Both are morally corrupt. In fact they are both so morally corrupt they have to invent their own religions/political ideology to cover up their anti-humanity atrocities. Violence begets violence. Using violence to achieve power just replaces one violent tyranny with another. It doesn't matter what badge these people in power wear, their treatment of the ordinary people never much changes, and usually gets worse. Besides a violent revolution in these days of atomic bombs, spy satellites, pilot-less drones etc... would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic. The idea of a violent revolution with men taking to the streets with mop handles and kitchen knifes was outdated even in 19th century when wars were fought with blokes on horse back and muskets. Gandhi had it right. The answer is passive resistance. Not violence.
Nachtschlepper wrote
at 1:05:49 AM on Friday, February 3, 2012
It's amazing how many experts there are telling us the reason for the riots. As I have already said the reasons are unimportant, what is important is that something is done to prevent the same thing happening again. I can guarantee one thing; putting people in prison will make no difference. As for the irony of somebody joining an organisation who's raison d'etre is to kill people & then condemning violence.
Fred the Shed wrote
at 1:04:11 AM on Friday, February 3, 2012
Working class struggle ? Only a violent , bloody Revolution will improve the onditions of the workers . And the sooner , the better .
david ash wrote
at 8:27:47 AM on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The riots were nothing to do with the working class struggle, poverty or the class war. It was pure criminality. The lad deserves all he gets. However after reading about his background, prison doesnt seem the best place for him. Why oh why did we close the mental hospitals down? Im sure they would have treated him far better for the same 4000 quid per week that it will cost us all to keep him in prison. ps The education service should hang their heads in shame, allowing this poor lad to leave school completely unequipped for life.
markus wrote
at 11:14:10 AM on Monday, January 30, 2012
Sorry i am from salford born and bred,I left in 1990 to better my job prospects and joined the royal marines. The guy jailed knew his intentions and knew the consequence's and 5 and a 1/2 years tough on him tough shit,he will do his time(he was actually from wythenshawe,manchester) and he will think again before doing a criminal act again and to be honest he will do half that term on appeal. Not all people are rioters just the ill educated and thick scum,most were from the part of salford where the brass handles was and the old kettle drum pub was,there a pathetic nuicense and need educating and if they commit more crime id say hand out more high sentances this will act as a deterrent and rightly so,when i used to come back on leave i found old mates that were still into clubbing and smoking weed and dropping pills still doing the same thing,omg do people actually ever get educated most people with ambition leave salford im so so glad that i did and all my family moved out of salford,once a great city now just a hole for any one with no ambitions.
caroline wrote
at 11:00:37 PM on Saturday, January 28, 2012
Winston Smith.I agree...with your concerns.Star does not agree to do bad things..only they understand that they have been pushed to far..an it is there way of saying so..It does not make it right and they have to pay for there sins..As always there will be evil ones who do ..I see who is to no ?which is which?Ask Ed for e-mail.If passes we can help both.
Winston Smith wrote
at 5:53:21 AM on Friday, January 27, 2012
Caroline, just to clarify - I believe the Salford Star is an absolute asset to Salford, but my serious concern with this article is that it goes over the line, from empathetic analysis of criminal actions towards implying riots are justified because they're some sort of heroic 'working class struggle'. The danger of this (and the irony) is that the very kids that the Star usually supports as victims of the system will be the very same ones they're effectively encouraging all the way to prison and an even bigger mess of a life.
caroline wrote
at 3:28:28 PM on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Sorry. your are aware we do no live in own little world..Things happen..It affects us all.Just as Salford Star..However much they wish to help..things happen..get back soon as they can....
caroline wrote
at 3:28:12 PM on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Winsto Smith I understand what you are saying..been there.They are messed up or may be bigger.. out to devalue the area..Salford Star has nothing to do with this.They help all..My chrildren are not white..
Doug wrote
at 9:33:14 AM on Thursday, January 26, 2012
cant say im going to be shedding any tears, he deserved what he got, everyone is desperately struggling in the current depression but most people do not behave in this way.
jj pwfelli wrote
at 8:27:28 AM on Thursday, January 26, 2012
It strikes me we have a tale of two cities. The brave new world of the new Salford and Manchester. Shiny offices, shiny apartments, shiny, slick, university educated people from all over the world shipped in and paid handsomely to work in these places. Then we have the other city. The older city. The neglected, the not so shiny, not so slick, the suburbs, the "sink" estates, the unfashionable bit the cities PR merchants and business leaders would rather you didn't see. Perhaps the people of the old cities don't have the right family background or daddies connections. Perhaps they never went to the "right" schools, college or attended the "right" universities to get those "successful" high paying, city slicker jobs of the new Salford and Manchester that the elites so boast and fawn over. So what do you do with these people of the old cities, these redundant classes? Well, tragically the answer for at least 30 years seems to have been you right them off. Give them enough benefit money, or minimum wage if they work to provide cheap entertainment, in other words bread and circuses to stop them revolting. But what happens when the money for the bread and circuses dries up? I'm not advocated looting or damaging your own community in any way.i doubt many have the intelligence or eduction but if only these people rioting would understand that by trashing their local shopping centre they are hurting local people, with the least means, who least deserve the carnage, violence and fear. The politicians, bankers, chief execs of corporations get of scot-free as usual, unaffected by the riots and enjoy watching the carnage as a spectacle from their ivory towers. It is genuinely sad how at a time when people need to pull together that the corporate, consumerist dogma and a terrible eduction system and political ideology of dog eat dog and a two tier economy and society has combined to create a monster - a generation of people with no hope for a better future, feel they have nothing to lose, have little respect for authority or other members of the community, who are angry but don't really know why and who turn this anger and hopelessness on to their own communities, the very people who could help them change stuff for the better. Thanks for reporting another side of the story Salford Star, even if it may be a little extreme in it's own way to compensate for the tyranny of mainstream, corporate media. Unfortunately the mainstream media has degraded and become little more than the propaganda wing of the cosy little love in between big business and government.
bristolian wrote
at 8:57:00 AM on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
It is not true that 5 and half years is the longest sentence given to a rioter. In Bristol one lad got 11 years for chucking a stone at a cop from a roof in St.Pauls. Jail the REAL CRIMINALS Lock up the Tories and the bankers. And FUCK THE BBC!
Crippen Gifford wrote
at 8:56:33 AM on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
The riots were caused by the corrupt mis-rule , exploitation , greed , avarice , lies , deceit , treachery , self-interest of the corrupt , loathesome 'elite'. MPs , MEPs , local councils , police , judiciary are all corrupt . When people exist in a dead city like salford - a jobless , hopeless , hellhole - and people are pushed too far by the corrupt liars and cheats responsible , then riots, civil unrest and insurrection are an inevitable consequence . The blame lies with the corrupt 'rulers' of this dead society .
Nachtschlepper wrote
at 8:55:41 AM on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
The difference being that Young Conservatives don't get banged up for five & a half years. The reasons for such riots have the same root i.e. inequality. Whether or not the looting & vandalism is justified or not is irrelevant. As long as things continue as they are such events will recur.
Matthew wrote
at 4:34:22 AM on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
In what way is looting and vandalism a justified response to inequality in society? The riots achieved nothing except to give the people of Salford a bad name. The complaint has been made that the BBC has not given opportunities to local residents. If the riots were an example of how those local residents respond when they are not granted their perceived entitlements, can you really blame the BBC for bringing in people from elsewhere?
Winston Smith wrote
at 4:33:55 AM on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Riots are not uncommon (yes, I've read some history), and some riots are even actually linked to poverty, oppression, etc. This one wasn't, any more than football riots are about ending working class suffering. The participants just wanted to exploit a situation for fun and profit in a most capitalistic way. In some ways the riot reminded me of a Young Conservatives convention: drunken tantrums, big food fight, slap a waiter about and set fire to a napkin - just a lot more extreme. There's no political angle to their actions - they all need to just grow up.
Nachtschlepper wrote
at 10:54:11 PM on Monday, January 23, 2012
From any perspective five and a half years for what this man did is over the top. As for whether the riots were part of a working class struggle you only need to read some history to realise that such events are not uncommon & will be repeated until something is done to redress the fundamental inequality present in society.
caroline wrote
at 2:21:40 PM on Monday, January 23, 2012
It is mindless ..But he did attempted suicide...Do we agree...?How do you help someone who is not to bright?I think trying to undo the harm,would be better than locking up.eg:cleaning up streets,washing or replaceing windows.Seeing the harm done and doing something to show you wish forgiveness.
caroline wrote
at 12:14:27 PM on Monday, January 23, 2012
to anon.thank you for that the star works so hard that it may not have been adressed.We need to remind them.you could not find finer people than the Salord Star.
Another Anon wrote
at 12:14:22 PM on Monday, January 23, 2012
I used to really enjoy reading this website and have never felt the need to comment; however in recent months this is turning into Salford's very own version of the Daily Mail. How can you even draw the link between the riots and MediaCity?! Any old chance to have a stab at the BBC? The riots was just out and out thuggery caused by the overwhelming disproportionate amount of UNDERCLASSES in comparison to other UK cities (NOT working classes!!!) who feel they are owed something by the government even though they are given state benefits for free and saw the London riots as an excuse to bring them here. Salford was slowly rebuilding itself but its reputation took a huge knock last year, something this website can't seem to understand and defending this guys actions by blaming it on the BBC is utterly ridiculous. Salford Star really isn't helping Salford at all, the views are holding Salford back in the 1980s. It would be nice to see something positive and not cynical reported for once. This very article could have been reported as a positive. One less mindless thug on the street, regardless of the sob story background.
Winston Smith wrote
at 9:55:03 AM on Monday, January 23, 2012
Nachtschlepper - in the doublespeak gibberish of the British 'justice' system, five and a half years doesn't mean five and a half years any more than life means life (or justice means justice). He'll be out in a few months but un-rehabilitated, no better educated and with a prison record that'll mean even the basic jobs he had before will be out of reach. Also, I'm sure there will still be plenty more who will follow in his footsteps, some of whom will be encouraged by the Salford Star's effective endorsement of this 'working class struggle'.
Nachtschlepper wrote
at 7:27:43 AM on Monday, January 23, 2012
As serious a crime as it was can anybody really justify five & a half years. This is a typical knee jerk reaction & once again the underlying problems will be ignored until the rioting starts again.
Matthew wrote
at 6:11:43 AM on Monday, January 23, 2012
Yet again, the Salford Star tries to make excuses for riots and rioters. Last August's riots had nothing to do with the working class struggle and everything to with greed. The fact that Zac Challinor is dyslexic and had a tough upbringing does not justify his actions. Neither does the fact that he has been in regular employment, carried out voluntary work and shows affection towards his daughter. He is a CRIMINAL whose actions contributed towards bringing shame to the good name of Salford and he deserves everything he gets.
Winston Smith wrote
at 6:11:23 AM on Monday, January 23, 2012
Sorry Salford Star, dressing up the Salford riot as 'working class struggle' is ridiculous. This article is an insult to the vast majority of people around here who also have grinding poverty (AND high crime rates) to deal with but DON'T go setting fire to their neighbourhood or robbing people who are often even worse off themselves. Violence is wrong, it isn't working class struggle, in fact it is ANTI-working class because the REAL working class are usually the victims of it.
Mark wrote
at 1:34:18 AM on Monday, January 23, 2012
"The torching of the BBC car will never be seen as a symbol of working class struggle by the organisations at the interface of accelerated social change and the digital revolution. But perhaps it should, as youths gather in shadows of the precinct with nothing to do, nowhere to go." The riots were not about the working class rising against the government, they were lead by a bunch of mindless thugs, and some organised criminals who wanted to take advantage of the situation. I see this image as a symbol of criminality, and a dark period in our city's history, not the working class or a struggle between the classes. Most of the decent, honest and hard working people who would be classed as working class in Salford played no part in these riots and were totally ashamed of the actions of these mindless morons! So, in my opinion, to say this should be seen as a symbol of a working class struggle is ludicrous!
Anon wrote
at 3:46:55 PM on Sunday, January 22, 2012
...And neither have I seen anything in the papers about the woman who got mugged at knife point last Wednesday in the same road - Ordsall Lane - where the Indian student got shot on Boxing Day...What's going on here?
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Star date: 18th February 2018


On Friday 23rd February between 2pm and 5pm, Salford's 'hidden gem' Working Class Movement Library is holding a drop-in as part of a HiDDEN8 event.

"If you've kept meaning to drop into that big Victorian house on the Crescent, today's the day" states Lynette from the Library "We're targeting Salfordians who've always meant to come in for a nosey." Not to be missed.

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Star date: 17th February 2018 


Despite pleas from Salford City Mayor, Paul Dennett, and various Labour councillors to work together to save the five Salford Council nurseries threatened with closure, a packed meeting of hundreds of people voted this afternoon to lobby and protest against the Council unless a consultation on the closures is stopped.

"They can't have a consultation to close the nurseries, and ask us to have a joint campaign" said UNISON's Ameen Hadi "The two things can't happen..."

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Star date: 17th February 2018


Salford star, Peter Hook, is to perform New Order albums Technique and Republic with his band, The Light, at Albert Hall Manchester on 29th September. Hooky has garnered a massive following touring the world with previous Joy Division and New Order material, and his live shows have met with huge critical acclaim.

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