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WHAT CAUSED SALFORD RIOTS
 

Star date: 7th October 2011

SALFORD RIOT RESEACH LOOKS TO FIND CAUSES

The Guardian newspaper, together with the London School of Economics, have launched a study into why the August riots happened and are looking for anyone who was around Salford Precinct to speak to them in total confidentiality and anonymity.

If you want to give a side to the story, click here for contact details…


So why did the Salford riots happen? Was it poverty, boredom, organised criminals, politics? Whatever. The Guardian and London School of Economics are trying to get o the bottom of it all but need people who were there to talk to them.

They are keen to hear from anyone who was in or near Salford Precinct during the riots. If you were - and are happy to give your side of the story in complete confidentiality and anonymity - call Helen on 07968 153295, or email helen@helenclifton.com

 


 

stephen parkin wrote
at 10:31:30 AM on Sunday, November 20, 2011
Panarama finally got to the underlying problem regards to the police and Salford, this was one item on the agenda that has been dismissed for far too long. The BBC however had not done their homework on our cities history, if they had they would find the mistrust goes back many generations, "with just cause" They may also have found the conviction rate at Manchester crown court stands at approx 23 %, in Salford magistrates that figure rises to an astonishing 80%......you don't have to have a degree in maths to tell you "some things not right". Maybe the BBC could highlight the unfair treatment our people have suffered for tar too long. They have a real chance to make a difference, and in doing so would gain the trust of our great "city"
 
stephen parkin wrote
at 7:27:42 AM on Monday, November 14, 2011
Ed, Thankyou for the comment ! So I wasn't the only one who noticed James had been up all night filling the blog with idiotic nonsense. I think by "james" reference to the BBC "hijacking the site was an indication that he had been forcing his propaganda on our people for far too long. His inability to except some one else's views speaks volumes. The complete lack of vision and willingness to blame all at the people living at the "lower end of the social ladder" is the problem that has to be addressed, just because they have no voice "in power" does not mean they cannot speak. It confirms the what those members of public said in the tv interviews "they just don't listen" Thanks to all the people who make this site "intresting" I look forward to reading the letters and value what opinions salfordians have
 
Ed wrote
at 1:56:13 PM on Sunday, November 13, 2011
James for the record I am eight next week not that it's any of your business. Why would I wish to read your post again when not a word of it makes any sense! To think the levels of immigration in this country is a benefit you must be a lunatic. I bet your are under the illusion all immigrants make a difference and all have the potential to be rocket scientists. Wrong - a lot of them hit the benefit system straight off. I suggest what you do is have a good nights sleep tonight and wake up in the morning and smell the coffee. For the record this is how you spell the word intelligence!!!!
 
James wrote
at 11:26:46 PM on Saturday, November 12, 2011
Ed are you still in school. " I have more money than yow" is the kind of argument a seven year old would put forward hahahaha
 
James wrote
at 4:28:48 AM on Saturday, November 12, 2011
Ed, I was lucky enough to be educated in Salford and am born and bred M6 as stated in my previous posts. I still live in M6 and wouldn't be the rounded person I am without my Salford Background of which I am very proud. If you look at the postings I make on this site they are never anti-Salford in fact mostly I defend this city of great potential from the narrow minded. I just chose not to agree with every bitter article the Star writes since it lost it's funding and have attempted to galvanise the Star into writing articles about the good in our city, I see a world which is a mess and Salford is a small part of it. I made a number of valid points in my previous post which were ignored in favour of pointing out "big words". I suggest you read my post again and pay attention to the points I make rather than the way I have made them. You might find it eye opening. Brian Kirkham makes some valid points, such as how do we ensure Salford people benefit from this investment and we don't just gentrify the area and move the disadvantaged further out to sink estates? This is tough and there is no easy answer. My hope was through tie ins with local schools such as Oasis Academy but given the religeous nature of the school I am not sure that will work. I think we have to hope for a ripple effect with investment gradually rippling to the community. Unfortunately as the BBC were moving jobs they had to be offered to people who have them first. For a similar perspective look at Co-OP who are moving Manchester staff to Peterbrough, this is only fair and the same is the case with the Londoners coming here.
 
Ed wrote
at 1:09:19 AM on Saturday, November 12, 2011
James do not come Mr Intelligence with me,the spelling mistakes were down to typing ability nothing more. My previous comments elude to snobbery would you fit into this bracket, I think you would. So carry on using big words if it makes you swell in your own importance. I would guess you are better educated than me as I was schooled in Salford but I would put my house on it that I have more common sense in one of pinkies than you will ever have, and more money! Thanks for the support stephen.
 
Brian F Kirkham wrote
at 1:13:21 PM on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
Why did the riots start? Hmmm... A Tricky one that. BTW Nacht / James I read the above comments. It comes down to a complete lack of opportunity. How Many Salfordians were employed in the construction of that new development on the quays? We have plenty of skilled craftsmen, carpenters and engineers - so why were they brought in from Outside? I could venture an idea (Cheapest bid) but i don't want to throw paraffin on the fire. Gerry writes of poverty and despair - this comes down to a complete lack of understanding of the skill sets available in our city. Now auntie beeb has moved into her new abode, it would be nice to know that the boys and girls who have been training for a job at that place have a chance of working. And again, If there's any positions going anywhere at Mediacity that don't involve a mop or broom - instead of sourcing from London, give the locals a go! JOBS, TRAINING and UNDERSTANDING the Workforce you have available are the only way to get out of this situation.
 
stephen parkin wrote
at 7:46:06 AM on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
Ed I see James comes from a long line of hypocrites, after wanting to make you "feel stupid" over spelling mistakes, maybe Cameron Could teach him to spell "private". All the ranting about immigration ? We are talking about Salford and its people "black, white or yellow" not a minority
 
Nachtschlepper wrote
at 6:31:29 AM on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
What a magnificent, lofty intellect you possess James. I really wish I was as clever as you. It must be fantastic to be so superior & know that everybody else is wrong. We all sit waiting for the latest pearls of wisdom to emanate from you. Tell us what we should do oh great oracle & we shall truly follow.
 
James wrote
at 3:30:22 AM on Tuesday, November 8, 2011
Mr Parkin. If you suggest that quotes such as "TO FINISH OFF IF THE COUNTRY'S A JOKE TO BEGIN WITH HOW CAN YOU EXPECT IT'S CITIES TO FUNCTION PROPERELY."to be in any way relevant then I pity you. What opinion is this meant to express? What is a joke? Where is the argument to justify it? Just to clarify I'm born and bred M6, just someone who gets up to do things for myself rather than moaning about how everything isn't my fault and the world is against me. Sure we live in a city with huge disparity between rich and poor and serious social problems but not one person on this site every suggests an alternative they just moan moan moan moan moan about what we have. My comments were meant to make Ed feel stupid, I chose his spelling to do this however could have picked any number of his arguments apart. So here goes: 1. Salford council don't understand the population - When was the last time you engaged with the council to express it apart from on this forum? 2. Salford citizens are treated as second class citizens when compared to immigrants - I don't really feel this comment deserves any merit or discussion. If there is one thing which annoys me about people in this country it is their complete lack of inteligence when it comes to immigration statistics. Look at any stat or economic study and it will explain the benefits of immigration far outweigh the costs. Maybe Ed doesn't like the fact many immigrants are hard working honest folk who get up and do a days work and expect nothing back from the government. Also is ed "100% English". Did his ancestors have Irish, Scottish, Jewish, Norman, Saxon, Roman bla bla bla blood? Probably. This idea of being 100% British is a joke the right wingers peddle because they can no longer use the nasty words of the past. People moan the government spends too much, then moan about public sector cuts. They moan about their council taxes and then bemoan council cuts. They moan about peel holdings and the BBC putting money into Salford because a small amount comes from the public purse but then suggest the council wastes money on jobs that are not needed. So to get this right if the council don't provide the work and the provate sector don't, who will? Can't see Ed getting out of his negative state of mind and setting up shop. Where are the solutions?????
 
stephen parkin wrote
at 1:10:30 PM on Monday, November 7, 2011
James its a pity you can't be constructive in your own comments, why don't you try using your own "ed" or are you in the position "of higher echelons" where oppression is the norm. Instead of making comments on spelling mistakes, try writing some thing people might find intresting......thanks Ed, I certainly found what you wrote made more sence than anything James found in his vocabulary....
 
James wrote
at 2:13:47 PM on Sunday, November 6, 2011
Ed, Maybe David Cameron could recruit you to give spelling classes to the youth. That will solve all the economic woe.
 
Ed wrote
at 7:12:51 AM on Sunday, November 6, 2011
THE ANGER IN SALFORD IS PURE AND SIMPLE DOWN TO A GOVERMENT NOT IN TOUCH WITH THE AVERAGE PERSON LIVING IN A POOR AREA. THE SO CALLED DECISION MAKERS IN THIS COUNTRY TRY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED. HOW CAN YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM IF YOU HAVE NEVER LIVED IT. THIS COUNTRY ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL SUFFER FROM A CLASS DIVIDE IN LAMENS TERMS SNOBBERY.THIS IS FURTHER ATOGONIZED BY ENGLISH CITEZINS BY BIRTH BEING TREATED AS SECOND CLASS WITH IMMIGRANTS BEING TREATED FAR MORE FAVOURABLY. TO FINISH OFF IF THE COUNTRY'S A JOKE TO BEGIN WITH HOW CAN YOU EXPECT IT'S CITIES TO FUNCTION PROPERELY.
 
ste parkin wrote
at 8:55:02 AM on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Being a true Salfordordian moving back to the precint area 3 years ago, the recent riots gave cause for concern that the coalition government Must take on board. Each time the tv cameras interviewed people as to 'why' the response was the same, 'its the government'. The people of Salford are victimized by the police, courts and at local government level, not listening has allready caused alarm and even the introduction of 'the most sophisticated CCTV system in the world' did not stop the rioting. The riots have given rise for my forthcoming book due to be published in may/june 2011
 
The Whalley Ranger wrote
at 11:56:14 AM on Saturday, October 8, 2011
I have conducted my own survey after a few beers at the Oktoberfest. My finding were: Greed in all parts of society. Who are the role models? I could come up with (ordered by class): 1) under: XFactor 2) working: Tevez 3) middle: Dragon's Den 4) upper: Duchess of York Call me Pierre Bourdieu jr., if you like... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Bourdieu
 
Neil Graystock wrote
at 11:56:08 AM on Saturday, October 8, 2011
When people witness the corruption , fraud , deceit , dishonesty , lies , and self-interest of the MEPs , MPs, Lords , Local councils and banks which in the main goes unpunished , eventually the anger spills over into violence - hence the riots . The corrupt , exploitive , greedy , insane system caused the riots .
 
Gerry Mandering wrote
at 10:21:16 AM on Friday, October 7, 2011
POVERTY . DESPAIR . HOPELESSNESS . JOBLESSNESS .NEVER GOING TO CHANGE IN THIS DREADFUL DEAD CITY . A DEAD CITY RUN BY AN IDIOTIC , WASTER , SELF-SERVING COUNCIL , WHOSE SOLE INTEREST IN SALFORD PEOPLE IS EXTORTION BY COUNCIL TAX . AND YES , THERE WILL BE MORE RIOTS AS THIS DREADFUL DEAD CITY GETS EVEN DEADER .
 
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