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OVER 100 SALFORD COUNCIL SOCIAL RENT PROPERTIES APPROVED FOR PLANNING IN ORDSALL AND CLIFTON
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Star date: 29th October 2020 SALFORD COUNCILLORS IGNORE ORDSALL RESIDENTS' GREEN SPACE PLEA AS PLANNING APPROVAL PASSED The Salford City Council Planning Panel of councillors this morning approved over one hundred social rent properties in Ordsall and Clifton, the first to be built by the Council for over ten years. While planning for developments on Clifton Green and Ryall Avenue in Ordsall were passed without objections in the meeting, a plan to put twelve houses on "the last safe space in Ordsall" used by children on Brassington Avenue, was fiercely opposed by residents, to no avail, with local councillor Ray Mashiter actually speaking against the residents... Full details here...
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Ordsall residents' fight to save their 'safe green space' was lost this morning as councillors on Salford City Council's Planning Panel put the 'pressing need for housing' above the need for a 'safe green space'. Residents of Brassington Avenue had been campaigning to save a small grassed area that has been a haven for local events and children's play since anyone can remember, despite it being previously being used for housing decades ago.* Salford City Council wanted to build twelve houses on the site, five 2-bed houses and seven 3-bed houses, which would be for properly affordable social rent, but received 26 objections to the planning proposal. At today's meeting, objectors stressed how the land had been used for 24 years as a place for children's play, fireworks displays, Easter egg hunts and more; how the two local parks, Regent Square Park and Ordsall Park, were 'dangerous' for children, and how this site was "the only safe place in Ordsall". They added that building on the site would create traffic and parking problems, create a potential risk to children, plus possible problems of being overlooked. For the Council, Andrew Lee, Head of Housing Strategy, argued that there was a need for affordable housing in the area, as only four social rent properties were built last year in Ordsall, and that the 49 existing affordable properties which did become available last year in the area had 82 bids per unit. Local ward councillor and Chair of the Planning Panel, Ray Mashiter, also spoke against the residents, arguing that the site had been earmarked for housing in the 2006 Ordsall Framework. He read out letters from two residents desperate for such affordable properties. Councillor Karen Garrido said that she was "torn" between the need for housing and the "residents who are already there...It's well used and they deserve this piece of land" she said, before making the "very difficult decision...with a heavy heart" to vote in favour of the application. Councillor Rob Sharpe was also "torn", and suggested that the Council should make Brassington Avenue a play street, before proposing acceptance of the application, which was subsequently passed unanimously by the nine councillors present. Earlier in the meeting, councillors unanimously approved a planning application by Salford Council for four houses and 47 apartments (in two blocks) on a previous housing site at Clifton Green, which would all be for social rent as part of a £7.6million grant from Homes England. In Clifton, the panel was told, there are 84 bids for every affordable property that becomes available. Three of the houses would also be wheelchair accessible, as there are 142 people in the city on the waiting list for such amenities. Councillors also approved unanimously, the third proposal by Salford Council to build six houses and 35 apartments in two blocks on previous housing land at Ryall Avenue in Ordsall. In each instance, Andrew Lee stressed the need for affordable housing, particularly in Ordsall, where there had been a lot of development but only four social houses built last year... ...However, the Salford Star has repeatedly stressed over the last decade how the Council's own shocking policies have led to this, with developers constantly being allowed to avoid providing social housing as part of their planning obligations.** While prime land all over the area has been snapped up for unaffordable properties, and public land handed over to developer LPC, what little that remains has been taken off the community, as in the case of Brassington Avenue, where the quality of life will recede...
At the Planning Meeting, councillors rejected planning applications for four detached houses at The Spinney on Walkden Road, Worsley, and for a retrospective application for a pitched roof dormer on top of a house in Tetlow Grove, Eccles.
* For a full background on the Brassington Avenue campaign see previous Salford Star article - click here ** For a full background see the Ordsall Boom article in Salford Star print issue 11 - click here for the electronic version
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bob wrote
at 12:28:33 on 01 November 2020 |
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| Well mr yes sir,I can only repeat what I said on 30th oct. If the council give me my pad down langworthy that they stole off me,i will give them back what they paid me for it. At the same time ,I will give them back the house I "stole" of them and they can give me back the cash I paid them.Thats fair isn't it?That way all the wrongs done will be put right won't they? Or is it the fact that Labour councils can steal peoples houses and the people cannot steal them back? Those houses down Langworthy were bought for a song by the council.I know , we bought ours for a song. Look at the picure of John Merry walking through the streets with Tom Blxham and the blond haired lady. Bloxham used to be in the labour party, he is an old friend of Hazel Blears.Bloxams company were given these houses for nothing and £60,000 each grant to do them up. I wish someone had given me that much. They were then flogged off for big profits. The people who lived there before could not afford to live there again, and many wanted to. Don't believe me. It has all been reported in back editions of this journal. Look it up for yourself. Another point, selling off council houses is good for them.It makes them last longer as houses.For an example, look at that little estate behind the Park Hotel Monton. Nearly all the people who live there bought their council houses. Its a lovely little estate round a village green, and it is a credit to the folk that live there. They will pull Worsley Green down before that one gets pulled down by our socialist imbeciles. |
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yes sir no sir wrote
at 10:43:30 on 01 November 2020 |
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| yes bob you are most certainly 3 bags full of it glad you just clicked dont beat yourself up because you helped to bring on the crisis in housing because you used thatchers lie to nick a council house off the community hang your head in shame you parasitic worm. you should get some help your obsession with houses and blaming labour for the destruction of the council housing stock is so tiresome and wrong.tory loads of money boys like you got the thatcher ball rolling and now you moan and blame labour you reap what you sow now admit you are one of the short sighted idiots who put thatcher in power in 79 and 83 and proudly read the sun i reckon your just the type to have shares in the gas water and electric. now here this labour in salford have started to rebuild council housing to replace the one you nicked and labour did not pull down housing in salford it was tory policy to rig the housing market and they also robbed the council house sales money billions wheres that gone eh bob. all credit to mayor paul dennet for the help he is giving to desperate families and putting a roof over there head you just cant accept that fact can you saddo it is also providing work for bricklayers which you claim to have been so whats the problem bob although i think the only bricks you have used are plastic lego bricks. viva salford the council building council houses . |
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bob wrote
at 11:03:35 on 31 October 2020 |
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| Good point from two Boroughs.If you add the fact that in Salford house prices are much higher than Bury, then developers could afford even easier to do here what they are made to do by Bury council. Bury council are also Labour like our council, so come on all you labour loving ,labour experts, which labour council is right, ours or Bury. Come on Ray,tell us. Here's another for you. Under the new right to buy scheme,(this includes housing associations), for each house flogged off, the government promises funding for one new one. They are doing trials at the minute with this one.The law also says that housing providers have the right to lend people the money to buy their houses off them. What happens is they just change the name on the deeds as it were and you pay them off monthly.its not real money. So, if this scheme from Boris does what it says it does, what is to stop Salix and City West flogging off all the 15000 houses they own on the tick? They would then get the cash for 15000 new houses from the government.The workers (those that go to work to earn money), would be better off because they would pay out much less each week. The people on benefits would be the same because the dole would pay their interest payments, but when they died their relatives would get a few bob or a cheap house. The housing associations would benefit because they would get new houses for old,and they would save all the balls ups they make when they renovate housing, the builders and their workers would benefit, and lastly you would have 30,000 homes instead of 15,000 homes. Sounds mad, but look the law up.Where is the flaw in my thinking, there must be one, Salix and City west cannot be that thick not to have looked into this. Can it be that they prefer things the way it is? Renting out crappy housing stock they got for nothing from the council, paying their gaffers huge wages for doing balls all.? |
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at 09:42:16 on 31 October 2020 |
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| The real problem is people who can’t stop banging on about the past and who did what. It doesn’t matter anymore. What matters is the here and now and the decisions people have to make. We need more social housing. End of story. |
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at 21:31:10 on 30 October 2020 |
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| I got to correct yes sir on the housing policy point. It was not the Toy party who brought out the pathfinder scheme to pull houses down, it was Lord prescott who was Tony Blairs right hand man in the last labour government. Oh! i am forgetting, according to some who write here, tony blair was a Tory basterd, so you are right after all. There is a differance between houses sold on right to buy as opposed to forced to sell. The new owners do not knock the houses down, they tend to do them up a bit. They tend to keep the gardes better as well. Bob is right, paying rent after you have worked your balls off all week is a mugs game. When I retire ,my little works pension will go in my pocket, not the housing asosciations, because like Bob , I bought my house as well. |
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bob wrote
at 18:04:19 on 30 October 2020 |
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| Yes sir,no sir,3 bags of shit full sir. I explained this before I'll do it again. Before I bought my council pad, me and a pal bought an old house down langworthy to do up.The council came up with the notice of CPO before we did it up.We flogged it to them and at the end of the day I made just under a grand on it. I believe the council paid less than it was worth, even though they paid me more than I paid for it. The law said the council could do this,and we all know what a superb job the council did there. Alls fair in business, and I bought my pad off the council, the law said I could do this. I got 50% discount so it was less than what its worth, but it was still more than the council paid for it.(law says the cannot sell for less than they paid). Tell you what I'll do. If the council give me my pad down langworthy for what I paid for it, then I'll flog them my pad where I live back to them for what I paid for it. That'll suite me ,I would be about £25 grand in front,and it would suit as its near the metro and I can aply for a free pass for that. As for the council building 100 houses, the council knocked 10,000 down last 20 years. other people have built 5000 , but mainly private. They are not for the likes of us. They are for "investors", you know, the people Dennett went on the piss in Nice France to meet.Yes, I do blame our idiot council for all our ills.There again the way this row is going on between Starmer and Corbyns mob, there won't be any Labour left,at least not like we know it. Lets hope any party comes to fill the void. How about the Greens? |
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A Tale Of Two Boroughs - The Truth Really Hurts wrote
at 17:42:05 on 30 October 2020 |
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| At one end of Littleton Rd - we have housing being built (including social rent) on the old Cussons land thats in Bury, and they are paying substantial Section106 payments to improve local facilities including childrens parks upgrades. And at the other end of Littleton Rd in Salford there are two huge housing developments that are contributing bugger all. So - how does that figure if one council can, and the other can't/won't??? |
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yes sir no sir wrote
at 13:12:20 on 30 October 2020 |
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| what mrs green and other bandwagon jumpers like that tit head bob who uses any excuse to persue his obsession of blaming salford council for all the ills of the world seem to want to wipe over is that the tory government in power control housing policy not salford council indeed under paul dennet salford council have been building council housing to replace the council houses that snobs like bob bought and congratulations should be the order of the day well done salford labour a shining light the first council to build council housing in 30 years. |
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Bob wrote
at 21:51:43 on 29 October 2020 |
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| Good ,honest letter from Mrs Green there.She sounds like sums up the feelings of ordinary Salford people.Will they ever listen,I doubt it. |
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at 19:05:18 on 29 October 2020 |
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| Councillor shitemasher will not be bothered by all this. He knows his people will turn out to vote for him at the next election. |
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Felsey wrote
at 17:13:37 on 29 October 2020 |
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| Jemma please keep on fighting for your rights to protect the Irreplaceable environment. |
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Mrs Green wrote
at 16:02:26 on 29 October 2020 |
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| The Star are bang on with the following comment. For too long the council has been too cosy with developers, putting them before their responsibilities to the people of Salford. It is shameful the lack of new build social housing, which could have been funded it the council hadn’t made a habit of waving millions in planning fees from developers. Also the absolute refusal to impose the proper number of homes for low rent on each development. Salford council hang your head in shame. I don’t know how you sleep at night.
However, the Salford Star has repeatedly stressed over the last decade how the Council's own shocking policies have led to this, with developers constantly being allowed to avoid providing social housing as part of their planning obligations.**
While prime land all over the area has been snapped up for unaffordable properties, and public land handed over to developer LPC, what little that remains has been taken off the community, as in the case of Brassington Avenue, where the quality of life will recede... |
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Bob wrote
at 16:01:11 on 29 October 2020 |
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| Let us see if Old Mother Garido is "torn between the need for housing and the needs of people already there",when it comes to the affordable housing near to Leigh road. I think her mind is made up on that one already. |
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Jemma harrison wrote
at 15:38:20 on 29 October 2020 |
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| It is absolutley disgusting as we have all put our objections in and our own Councillor ray mashiter has gone agaisnt all the residents on Brassington avenue, that green has been used for over 20 years and like it was discussed today that there are plenty of empty land around ordsall so why take the only safe space left! |
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