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WHAT IS GOING ON WITH COVID-19 IN GREATER MANCHESTER?
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Star date: 8th October 2020 NO-ONE SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING At yesterday's Greater Manchester Leaders press conference, no-one seemed to know what is going on regarding the spread and affect of coronavirus in Greater Manchester..."Whatever it is we are dealing with now is quantitatively and qualitatively different from what we were dealing with in April and May" argued Richard Leese GM Health Lead. Meanwhile, Salford has the second highest COVID-19 positivity rate, and the third highest rate of positive cases in Greater Manchester. Full details here...
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Each week, at the press conference for the Greater Manchester Leaders, it begins with GM Health Lead and Manchester City Council Leader, Richard Leese, displaying the latest figures for coronavirus in the region and trying to explain them. Yesterday, it all became incredibly confusing... Referring to the huge rise in COVID-19 case numbers in the region, Leese argued that "As a measure of what's going on it's becoming slightly weak", later adding that many cases are amongst younger people either having low or no symptoms who are not using medical services... "It doesn't seem to be getting to more vulnerable parts of the population" he said. To underline the point, he showed a slide of the number of COVID-19 patients occupying hospital beds in Greater Manchester, which revealed that weekly admissions had actually reduced from 49 in the week of 28th September, to 31 in the week of 5th October. While weekly admissions of COVID-19 patients have gone down, patients diagnosed with COVID-19 have increased, up from 191 to 222 in the same period... "These are people who clearly were not admitted to hospital for COVID-19" he explained, asking "Is this transmission in hospital? Is this people being tested on admission to hospital?...There are a lot of questions about what is going on and we need to understand better..." He added that the number of Intensive Care Unit beds with COVID-19 patients had fallen by one in the last week. Richard Leese's figures seems to contradict the trend in the North West hospitals as a whole, published by the Salford Star yesterday, which showed that there were 208 admissions on 4th October, with a total of 996 patients in hospitals on 6th October and 108 on ventilators, compared to 139 patients in hospital and 12 on ventilators on 6th September. Meanwhile, today the Royal College of Emergency Medicine published figures which showed that total beds occupied by confirmed COVID-19 patients has quadrupled over past month, and that five times as many patients are on ventilators than the previous month. "We need to be clear about the scale of what we face as we go into winter" said its President, Dr Katherine Henderson "If we do not come together and take effective precautions, COVID will continue its explosion across the country; a devastating consequence of which could be the implosion of our NHS this winter." It's all very confusing, and, after supporting increased restrictions in Greater Manchester, Leese argued that, while they have been in force for nine weeks, cases have continued to rise and that there was "an increasing amount of evidence that restrictions aren't working". He compared Manchester, which has had increased restrictions, to Liverpool which until recently hadn't, and showed that, despite this, Manchester had more cases. And compared demographics across Greater Manchester (for the first time), in which the majority of cases in Manchester (55%) were in the 17-21 age group, with most students being asymptomatic, posing "very little risk to the community at large"... Meanwhile, Tameside has an older demographic, he explained, asking whether the same blanket measures should apply throughout the region. Leese concluded by saying that the COVID-19 death rate "is still very, very low, nothing like in April and May... "Whatever it is we are dealing with now is quantitatively and qualitatively different from what we were dealing with in April and May" he added "There needs to be a dialogue with the Government about what is going on and what the most appropriate measures are, rather than having measures imposed on us, usually with no regard to local circumstances..." There seems to be a complete switch in thinking about the pandemic, away from possible serious health implications of COVID-19, to economic and societal considerations. Greater Manchester Mayor, Andy Burnham, added that he thought local restrictions were becoming more limited in their effectiveness because they are too complex, had conflicting messages and were confused... "The measures are causing real harm to the economy" he said. Burnham called for the Government to extend the furlough scheme to any businesses caught up in further closures; for substantial support packages for councils, businesses and individuals as part of any further tier system or restrictions and for an exit route from restrictions through local control of test and trace. Meanwhile, in the midst of the confusion, slides shown at the press conference show that the seven day rate of positive cases per 100,000 population for Salford has almost doubled, from 185.1 in the week of 26th September, to 293.6 in the week of 3rd October, the third highest in Greater Manchester; and the positivity rate for Pillar 2 testing in Salford is the second highest in Greater Manchester at 13.3%.
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ROSSI wrote
at 14:39:36 on 17 October 2020 |
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| A new clinical report states that only 0.5 percent of people under seventy who are healthy die of covid 19. Think about that People. Out of every two hundred people who are under seventy and healthy, who get Covid 19, One will die. Now I ask you, is it reasonable to put us all through this pantomime of absurdity and governmental failiure ... For this? 🤔 I think not ... |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 13:09:17 on 15 October 2020 |
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| So Rossi,to make it clear,you want the economy opened up totally so that you can sit on your arse all day eating Ringòs! Are you taking the piss? |
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The Truth Hurts wrote
at 12:37:44 on 15 October 2020 |
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| Latest Salford figures show that cases have risen to 350 per 100,000... so lets get that into perspective .... thats 99.65% of the population of Salford who don't currently have covid ,,, and 0.35% who do ,,, many of these positive cases are young and low risk or asymptomatic. So my parents who are cakking it again as they are 84 and 80 respectively have quite rightly gone into self imposed lock down - no visitors in our out. Leaving me and the rest of my family to get on with our daily lives... This is the way it should be for the rest of the population. I do not believe that wearing a mask makes the slightest bit of difference ,, but I wear one out of common courtesy to others who might think differently. We can not stop living our lives or damaging our economy. We have to stop blaming the government as I have no doubt the labour mob would be equally as bad as the convservative mob. So, chin up, chest out, crack on and let common sense prevail. |
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at 11:46:02 on 15 October 2020 |
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| rossi the claims that were made against you are libelous written .not slanderous spoken you got it wrong again pot head i agree with darren 100per cent. |
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ROSSI wrote
at 11:25:31 on 15 October 2020 |
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| Wrote, you are right in what you say. The Government should have listened to me, and to people like me. That's because we talk sense. Instead they listened to The Bonking Professor, Neil Ferguson. And look where that got them. He made the rules. But he didn't keep to them. The Rules are only for the Little People, the Plebs. Not for the Rule Makers. So now we have it. And endless fiasco of Carry On proportions. And all because Her Majesty's Government don't listen to people like me.
Instead those buffoons give companies like Serco 12 billion quid to do testing for Covid. And predictably, the outcome is pure farce. Me, i would have had several portakabins in the Precinct car park. There would have been about six nurses there doing swabs. Maybe a couple of security guards to keep people in line. Citizens would not have had to go down the labrynthine rabbit hole of booking appointments in advance via failing websites such as nhs.gov.uk, but would have merely turned up with some photo ID and a council tax bill for proof of address. Then they would have provided either a mobile number or email address, and Bob's your Uncle. This system could have been replicated throughout the United Kingdom and wouldn't have cost billions of pounds. This is the thing, the Eton and Oxford and Cambridge educated wallahs running the Government and ruining the country NEVER listen to people like me. People who possess common sense, instead they listen to people like themselves, and debacle follows debacle. This is the way that it is. |
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ROSSI wrote
at 08:45:41 on 15 October 2020 |
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| The Sheep go into the Trafford Centre, Darren. Those who can think for themselves venture into Salford Precinct. |
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at 17:51:36 on 14 October 2020 |
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| Rossi, the countries where their vulnerable shielded and everyone else was careful, had a lower death rate than the U.K, where we just locked everyone up and then let us all out, to spread a virus that hadn’t gone away. They should have shielded the vulnerable and let the rest of us keep the country afloat and get COVID and take the couple of days feeling rough, which is all that would have happened to 99.9% Of us. Instead the country is bankrupt, the virus is still here, and vulnerable people are still dying. The government did not do the right thing! They should have listened to you and others like you saying what you are saying. |
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born bred Darren wrote
at 15:45:49 on 14 October 2020 |
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| I'm having afternoon off work and spending time with the missus at the Trafford centre shopping and a bite to eat. At the Trafford centre, there is arrows on the floor telling you which way to go and a tannoy BOOMS out every 2minutes saying YOU MUST WEAR A FACEMASK AND KEEP TWO METRES APART and 99.% of people are wearing face masks and social distancing.. Meanwhile on Salford and eccles precincts 50%(half) of people are STILL NOT wearing facemasks and social distancing. Most People in Salford don't give a toss or monkeys no more. |
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ROSSI wrote
at 13:41:14 on 14 October 2020 |
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| Salford Boy, do you have any evidence to back up your slanderous claims about me? No? I'm not suprised. See, the thing is, I neither smoke and almost never drink alcohol. Equally, the closest I've ever got to narcotics is taking three drags on someone's joint at a New Years Eve party about fifteen years ago. I didn't feel good, merely got a sore throat. I don't even take medications when I'm ill ... Also, back in my 20s and 30s I was a bit of an athlete, running 3 miles in under 15 minutes, and bench pressing 294 pounds. This, is Why, I Do NOT Fear Covid 19. As a healthy specimin of British manhood, my very essence is chock a block full of the DNA of the ancient Celts, Romans, Saxons, Vikings and Normans .... As I stated earlier in one of my comments, and which was backed up by the anonymous Wrote, We Strong Ones, need to take care and protect Our Weaker brothers and sisters. We, the healthy and the strong, must step into the gladiatorial arena, and stare Covid 19 in the face, and say to it "C'mon You Son of a Bitch! Is that the best you got You Sucka ... I've surfed bigger Second Waves than this in St Ives." And we MUST take it on and fight it, our phagocytes doing battle with it in much the same way that Spartacus's slave army did battle with the Roman Legions ... And yes, some of us will die .... Some of us healthy ones will inevitably succumb to Covid 19, but in the race to build Herd Immunity, they will be seen as heroes, as Pathfinders ... the kind of people that David Bowie sang about. But the weaker ones amongst us, it is imperative that they "Shield", for as long as it takes .... even if that is for years. This is the only way that We can beat this thing. The only way that We can become Overcomers ... The country MUST NOT BE LOCKED DOWN. The weak, the old and the compromised Must be compelled to Shield. The Strong MUST carry on, so that We can build Herd Immunity or get a Vaccine .... Life MUST go on, as it Did before, and as it will do so again ... |
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Darren born bred wrote
at 12:55:34 on 14 October 2020 |
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| Totally agree 100% with Salford boy |
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salford boy wrote
at 10:54:57 on 14 October 2020 |
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| people of decency dont reply to rossi he his sick in the head the more people reply the more this idiot will spout the nonsense he keeps coming out with this thing obviously feels very insecure and seems to be full of nasty self hatred and feels the need to furnish his hatred and bile out in to the wider world he and the covid virus are the same toxic leave him to stew in his sad world ranting sat with his string vest on and his dirty underwear drinking cheap booze and smoking weed which has rotted the brain he once may have possessed . |
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at 18:13:09 on 13 October 2020 |
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| @wrote21:44 ROSSI is right, the vulnerable should be shielding so we don’t have to destroy the lives of the majority. It’s sad but true. If you are worried about taxis, use UBER, wear a face mask and visor, and carry sanitiser when you go to hospital. It isn’t fair that people are dying and destitute, because the minority feel they have the right to go about their normal business during a pandemic. Vulnerable? Shield. Not vulnerable? Go about your normal business to keep the business afloat. Where’s the money for the NHS going to come from when the country doesn’t have any?? |
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ROSSI wrote
at 18:06:07 on 13 October 2020 |
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| Wrote, I didn't mean to sound so callous and insensitive, but the weak ones amongst us need to be protected ... by the strong, and the healthy. I feel that all people with health conditions, or who are eighty or over MUST be confined to their quarters, until either herd immunity has been allowed to work and sixty percent of us healthy ones have had covid, or until a vaccine has been created.
This ... is the only logical ... thing to do. Society Must NOT lock down EVER AGAIN. |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 14:45:43 on 13 October 2020 |
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| Rossi , can you tell us please,what is the average age of the more than 680 plus NHS Staff who
have died of Còvid-19? It's à good deal less than 83
years- from memory the mean age of these deceased workers was 58!
Are you also aware of the mounting body of evidence that it might be possible to contract Covid 19 a number of times? Ergo,there is no automatic immunity against this virus! We may have to face the
grim prospect of a generation-long struggle against
Còvid-19. |
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at 14:15:22 on 13 October 2020 |
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| @Rossi: I don’t have a choice, I have to go out to the hospital for treatment, as do Cancer sufferers and others who need in-hospital treatment. I’m assuming you’re fine with them potentially dieing of exposure to COVID just so you don’t have to wear a mask? As for closing down the economy, that’s the thing, you don’t have to completely lockdown society or the economy to protect the clinically vulnerable - just wear a mask and follow precautions. But you refuse to even do that. Wearing a mask etc is “suffering”. Look at Italy, it was hit hardest earlier this year, their infection rate now is miles below the UK’s. Why? Because they follow precautions, as did east Asia. It’s selfish individuals like yourself who are helping the virus spread and prolonging lockdown. Prevention works, but that doesn’t matter to you because your right to not wear a mask is more important than my life or any other of the clinically vulnerable. Your argument is nonsensical, selfish and is predicated on “My freedoms!” and nothing else. So your argument for the economy (which could be kept open following precautions as evidenced by Italy and East Asian nations) and saving people from committing suicide, many of them the same people you’re happy to throw under the bus, is pure selfishness and nonsense. |
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ROSSI wrote
at 10:29:49 on 13 October 2020 |
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| Wrote, you have IBD, and that's a shame, but we can't lockdown society just to keep "you" alive. There are sixty five million other Britons living in this green and pleasant land. Stop being so selfish. If you are so worried about covid, then isolate yourself until a vaccine comes along. You can order your food online and pay all of your bills by direct debit. You actually have no need to go out. But please, don't expect the rest of us to collectively suffer for you. |
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at 21:44:13 on 12 October 2020 |
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| @Rossi: I’m 36 and have Inflammatory Bowel Disease, the only way to get the immunosuppressant treatment and the corresponding blood tests is at Salford Royal. I can only get there via taxi, which I dread because all but 1 of the 5 drivers I’ve interacted with have said they’re “Not bothered” about wearing masks or getting their passengers to wear masks, despite law saying they should. They all sound like you. So every time I go out for a treatment to give me some quality of life from a particularly medication-resistant IBD I run the risk of getting infected. I am currently on 3 immunosuppressant drugs, which basically means my immune system is barely there. If I get COVID, I’m dead. Is it ok for me to become a statistic for the sake of the economy? Is it ok for me to die because taxi drivers and passengers are to ignorant or just plain don’t care enough to put a mask on? It doesn’t hurt them to wear a mask, for my sake and others like me. Yet you call this government control for the sake of it, but it’s not... it’s there to help limit the threat to people like me. Over 2 million people who were shielding will be at severe risk again this Winter, not all of them are in their 80s. If you had your way there would be no lockdown and many of these people would die, all so you don’t have to wear a mask and can go to the pub, club etc? You talk of people committing suicide because of lockdown, yet you’re completely ok with people dieing for the sake of heard immunity? That makes zero sense. You want to save lives but don’t mind if the elderly and clinically vulnerable die? I’ve been shielding since March, I suffer with my mental health too because of my illness and being stuck in hasn’t helped. I haven’t seen my Mam in person since March, the woman in my life or family, so I know what it’s like to struggle alone with mental health. If people like you were to take precautions and wear masks there wouldn’t be a need for more strict lockdowns. I understand we can’t just shut down the economy, but so many people are making it worse by going out and not following the precautionary measures. On the TV today they showed that younger people are spreading it on to older people, this can be avoided, but many just don’t seem to care. They all have such a selfish “I don’t care, it’s not a problem for me!” attitude. |
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at 21:01:10 on 12 October 2020 |
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| What’s going on?? Rossi, I totally agree with you! We wouldn’t stop treating the over 80s with cancer, and we wouldn’t lock down the country. We would stop treating the over 80s with flu, and we wouldn’t lock down the country. We wouldn’t stop treating the over 80s with COVID, yet we lock down the country?!?!? We are now a bankrupt country! In debt for centuries again! None of us want our elderly parents to die, both mine died in an NHS with sepsis, they didn’t go into hospital with sepsis. Tens of thousands of our elderly are dying of sepsis, and they aren’t locking down the country! Hysteria hysteria hysteria! Average age of those dying is 82. Average age. Sad but a true fact that if you live over the age of 77/78 you are deemed to be lucky! 82 is a good innings, that’s what we say don’t we. 80, oh they had a good innings. All of a sudden it’s not good enough to live past the average lifespan, we now need to impose lockdowns on the nation and bankrupt thousands of businesses and tens of thousands of individuals. |
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Truth Seeker wrote
at 19:58:51 on 12 October 2020 |
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| Come on people keep up, all the east Asian countries mentioned had BCG vaccination programs as did the UK from the early 50's until 2005 most people were vaccinated in high school in what is now known as year 7. The old aged people getting Covid were not vaccinated, neither was anyone who is currently under the age of 26. Basically if the BCG offers some protection against Covid which many experts suggest that it might then you are more vulnerable if you are aged under 26 or over 80. To me that explains why the very old and students are so vulnerable to this virus.
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ROSSI wrote
at 18:53:50 on 12 October 2020 |
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| Wrote, by all means treat the over 80s for cancer. I'm not against that. The thing is, you don't have to bring draconian lockdowns in, the like of which this country has never before seen, in order to treat the over 80s for cancer. With Covid it is different. This country has gone through lockdowns, and 500 covid laws have been introduced, and there are talks of new lockdowns .... Which will mean more businesses going bust, and more people dying from cancer, strokes and liver and heart disease .... and more suicides, and more people losing their mental health, all in order to foolishly attempt to stall a virus, which almost exclusively takes out people who have lived a year longer than the UK average life expectancy of 81 years of age. This IS Nonsensical. And when will it stop? When a vaccine has been found? That could be fifteen years away ..... If that's what bungling Boris is waiting for, then how many more lockdowns are they going to be? Oh, and Wrote, if you're one of the lucky ones, the furloughed ones, trust me, that eighty percent of your wage won't go on indefinitely. If people like me are supposed to get by on 73 pounds per week and a free flat, then pretty soon Her Majesty's Government will realise that furloughed workers getting up to six hundred quid a week is simply unaffordable. |
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ROSSI wrote
at 18:16:17 on 12 October 2020 |
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| I repeat, Wrote, it is nonsensical to shut down our society because of a virus that takes out people with an average age of 82. Those lucky buggers have already lived longer than the UK average life expectancy, which as I stated, is 81. We can not, for the sake of sanity, impose more draconian lockdowns for this, and ONLY this reason. Herd immunity IS the answer. We have to be strong, and stoical. Stoicism IS the answer. |
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at 18:03:07 on 12 October 2020 |
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| @Rossi: By your logic then those people over 82 with Cancer shouldn’t be treated because they’re passed UK life expectancy and it’s just a waste of money and resources? What about the young people who get the virus and then develop ‘Long COVID’? They’re going to be costing the economy money in the long run. I also don’t think completely shutting the economy down is a good idea, but your idea of letting the virus rip through the population killing the elderly and young alike, well that makes me think you’re trolling. |
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ROSSI wrote
at 14:25:37 on 12 October 2020 |
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| Wrote, UK life expectancy is 81.16 years old. We can not close down our country and bankrupt it for the sake of a virus where the average age of the dead is 82 years old. It Makes No Sense. Look, just chill out, okay? Calm down, stop panicking and show some heart - some heart and some pragmatic common sense. |
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at 11:49:13 on 12 October 2020 |
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| @Rossi: The virus had already spread by the time they took it seriously, which is why the Italians were shocked when the UK didn’t learns from their mistake. Also, in Italy they are very family-oriented, with families living in close quarters, which also helped the spread. As for the mortality rate, that’s only registered deaths, in parts of the world where there’s no modern political and medical infrastructure to record deaths from COVID-19, they go unreported. Even if the mortality rate is accurate that’s still no reason to carry on as normal and dismiss this virus as ‘just like the flu’. It’s not like the flu, it’s a new virus and there’s no vaccine for it or solid way to treat it. Flu kills around 10,000 people each year in the UK, while COVID-19 has killed 42,825 as of 12/10/20. There’s a tried and tested vaccine and others ways to treat Flu, this is why deaths are lower from flu. Furthermore if the country hadn’t gone into lockdown back in March then the death toll would have been higher as it would’ve spread unchecked. Finally, the WHO said in March that 3.4% of people infected with COVID-19 died, while flu kills 1% of the people infected. Given this was at the start of the year the death rate is now most likely higher. |
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at 10:38:25 on 12 October 2020 |
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| that 82 year old is someones mother or father who probably worked all there lives and deserve respect in old age not the filth you come out with rossi all life is precious even yours you horrible ignorant little snot nosed waster, |
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ROSSI wrote
at 21:22:55 on 11 October 2020 |
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| Stop talking bollocks, Ray, only 349 people died of SARS in China ... Equally, this Covid19, think of it like this ... so far, after ten months it has killed a million people .... out of a global population of nearly eight billion humans .... as a percentage, what is that, somewhere in the region of 0.01 percent. I'll be honest Ray, maths isn't my best subject, but I'm sure you get what I'm saying. Yes, it's sad that people are dying (average age 82) but is it worth all of these absurdly draconian and nonsensical rules that we now have? In fact, the Covid rules in this country, and the hysteria brought about by Covid, have led to an extra 30,000 people dying from cancer due to postponed treatment. The Government, and Labour would be equally as bad, have performed abysmally. |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
at 14:08:35 on 11 October 2020 |
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| It's important to note that China and indeed the whole of East Asia suffered grievously from SARS in
the early 2000 's. It turns out that SARS and Covid-19 belong to the same family of viruses - the experience of SÀRS embedded deeply into the consciousness of Asia the need for rigorous personal
protection and a properly funded test and trace system.
In addition the Confuscian Tradition tends to make
people likely to comply with the commands/exhortations coming from Asian Governments-
it appears that people in this part of the world value security over liberty! |
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ROSSI wrote
at 12:09:55 on 11 October 2020 |
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| Wrote, that doesn't explain the high numbers of deaths in Spain and Italy, where since the start of their covid19, they had draconian lockdown measures and everyone wore masks. |
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Arnold Rimmer wrote
at 09:37:18 on 11 October 2020 |
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| Also countries like China are much more strict on compliance with the rules. Lock down meant lock down. Covidiots like Rossi would have been beaten with a baton by now if he was there. (another reason we're not doing too well.)
Not wearing a mask, jail. Going out in your car during lockdown, jail.
England is also one of the most densely populated countries in the world. Places like China might have massive numbers of people but Chinese people aren't free to travel where they like in the country (to prevent mass city migration) which reduces the spread. |
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at 19:50:47 on 10 October 2020 |
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| @Rossie and Bob: East Asians have a culture of wearing masks and have done for decades, due to pollution and disease in their mega cities. That’s probably one of the reasons why it didn’t spread as fast in East Asia. Contrast that with the UK and West where next to no one wore masks prior to the pandemic (and still don’t), and you can see why it spreads so fast. |
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ROSSI wrote
at 11:31:28 on 10 October 2020 |
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| I'm glad that you didn't accuse me of being racist, Northern Regular, for if you had, I would have suspected that you were little old Ray of Sunshine, or one of his "$ociali$t" mates. No, I just find it absolutely fascinating that you have this group of countries, all around China and its general vicinity - and collectively they have a population that is thirty times that of the United kingdom, but also, collectively they all have only fifteen percent of the United Kingdom's number of dead .... and we in the UK only have a 0.1 percent death rate. So what is their death rate from covid19? What would their death rate be? Using my tefal head sized brain I've managed to come up with a death rate of 0.0004 percent. So this begs the question, why? |
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bob wrote
at 22:09:49 on 09 October 2020 |
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| To add to what Rossi says, all these countries are a lot closer to China than we are, and all of them, (Japan included rated 7th, us rated 6th) have less capable health services than us. Places like Greece where the government always makes a balls of things, out performing the best health services like Canada ,Sweden ,Norway and Germany.It's weird to me, I just don't get it. |
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Northern regular wrote
at 16:55:40 on 09 October 2020 |
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| Rossi jobless person @ don't believe statistics and don't believe MSM, I thought you know that. Coranavirus is here and it's not as bad as people think |
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at 13:50:28 on 09 October 2020 |
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| Boris and Rishi have made a total f--k up of handling things. Is it time to give them the nicknames of FATMAN and DOBBIN? |
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ROSSI wrote
at 12:54:06 on 09 October 2020 |
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| I don't know what's going on with regard to covid19 in Manchester, but what I find surprising is how little it affects South East Asians. Think about this, I'm going to give some statistics, then ask yourselves what they mean.
China population - 1.39 billion. Number of covid deaths - 4,634. Vietnam population - 95.54 million - Number of covid deaths - 35. Taiwan population - 23.78 million - Number of covid deaths - 7. Japan population- 126.5 million - Number of covid deaths - 1,617. South Korea population - 51.64 million - Number of covid deaths - 428. Mongolia population - 3.17 million - Number of covid deaths - 0.
So there you have it, nations with a combined population of 1.7 billion people, have had a total of 6,721 dead citizens.
How is this possible? Does it make any logical sense, especially when you consider that the UK, which has a population of about 66 million has had over 42,000 deaths.
What is going on?
Sources : www.worldometer.info (just type in Vietnam coronavirus, etc) And for the various populations, wikipedia. |
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Darren born bred wrote
at 09:52:45 on 09 October 2020 |
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| Totally agree with Paul Kelly. It's all very confusing.. Every morning when I get up I have a shit, shave and shower and I always listen to joy Division/new order songs when I'm getting ready and this morning I was listening to confusion song by new order. Then I got in the car and a song came on the radio, it was confusion song by metalica and then I got my seat belt on, started the car up and the ball of confusion song by the temptations came on, then got to the end of the street and the land of confusion song by genesis was on the radio. Then I realized I need car insurance this week so I need to go on confused.com. |
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paulkelly wrote
at 22:56:25 on 08 October 2020 |
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| NO one seems to know whats happening very apt what else could be expected from Boris and his gang of merry yes men first off starting orders Chealtenham races not called off big increase and spread of the virus next up returning Spanish holiday makers taken to Liverpool on coaches from southern airports 200 miles from where they landed very wise coach drivers of course to macho to wear masks Liverpool playing Athletico Madrid at Anfield which was attended by 3000 fans from Madrid a city under lockdown then the return of 100s of thousands of brits from heavily infected countries from all over the world a prime minister who went absent for 6 weeks at this time of impending crisis then became incapacitated from the virus because he behaved in a cavalier manner not listening to scientific advice thus leaving the country in the hands of not me guv Cummings and a load of chinless nobodys making rules up and changing rules before or after every BBC news bulletin and unfortunately this top down stop start incoherence is now the norm of government the strategy that is if a stratergy does exist to fight this virus is being hampered by ignoring local authorities and treating the north with contempt did you really think really honestly think you would be treated better for voting for the anti working class tory party northerners sunak is already saying the pension triple lock is going it cant be afforded what a joker .so with a further lock down looking likely here is a pointer to the ragged trousered philanthropists Amongst us DONT GO MAD AND BY LOTS OF BOG ROLL AND END UP FIGHTING IN TESCOS SCARING CHILDREN DONT GO AND BULK BUY BECAUSE YOU WILL END UP THROWING IT ALL OVER THE STREETS AGAIN AND END UP AGAIN WASTING FOOD QUEUE PATIENTLY AND MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCE THAT MEANS 2 METRES THAT MEANS NOT STOOD NEXT TO ANOTHER PERSON NOW WE GET TO THE AWKWARD TASKS WASH YOUR HANDS AND CARRY SANITISER AND IF YOU CAN LOSE YOUR FEAR OF BEING CONTROLLED BECAUSE OF THE WEARING OF A MASK AND I KNOW IT MUST REALLY SCARE YOU HAVING A BIT OF COTTON OVER YOUR MOUTHES I HAVE SYMPATHY FOR YOU BUT JUST THINK THAT GREAT SACRIFICE YOU ARE MAKING COULD SAVE A LIFE PERHAPS YOUR OWN AND HELP SAVE OUR NHS BEING OVERWHELMED IN THE WINTER MONTHS.Some people seem to think that some people dying from covid is not such a serious problem well it is for the people who die of course and the loved ones they leave behind and they often say they had underlying health problems and they were old anyway so why should it matter to legitamise such ignorant cruel comments well it matters because they are dying from covid not underlying health problems and i and other people have known people who have died from covid who would have enjoyed many more years of life even with health problems so stop being so callous and insenseative to the feelings of others and the hurt your comments may cause.we should give support to our local leaders at the present time i think they are in an invidious position and are doing the best in extremely difficult times.Boris and co have just had the tory conference they should have used tory supporting phil collins last man to leave the uk tax exiles song put the lights out great song THE LAND OF CONFUSION VERY APT. |
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Rayofsunshine wrote
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| Could it be that the Covid 19 Virus has mutated into a less lethal organism or could it be like everything else during this pandemic,data collection
has been half-baked. We're rapidly becoming an international joke-"Global Britain", my arse! |
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Bob wrote
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| I'll tell you why its not getting the more "vulnerable parts" as Lease likes to call us.It's because we've got a bit more sense when it comes to the precautions, and perhaps that we're a bit concerned for the really old fogies some of us look after. The young do not give a shite about it.We old uns have to look after ourselves,we all know the council and government don't care about us. |
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