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FURY AS SALFORD COUNCIL RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SALFORD CITY FC STADIUM
 

Star date: 8th December 2015

`GARY NEVILLE GETS HIS STADIUM AND WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT...'

There was fury amongst local residents this morning as Salford City Council planning officers recommended approval for the Class of '92 plans for the redevelopment of Salford City FC stadium, despite overwhelming opposition.

The plans have to go before a panel of councillors to be voted on next week but David Mintz, of Kersal Moor Residents Association, told the Salford Star that "The report is just trying to steamroll any concerns without addressing them...Gary Neville gets to fill his stadium and we have to pay for it. This is far from over..." 

Full details here...


Last week, East Salford Community Committee voted to oppose plans by Salford City FC owners, Gary and Phil Neville, Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt and Ryan Giggs, to redevelop the club's Moor Lane stadium in Kersal, increasing capacity from its current 2,163 people, to 5,172, with associated problems of parking, traffic and other issues.

At the Community Committee meeting, Kersal councillors, Peter Connor and Ann- Marie Humphries (Executive Support for Sport) also signalled their opposition, the Salford Star understands.

Meanwhile, local people who have formed the Kersal Moor Residents Association (KMRA) have registered 248 objections, with a further petition carrying three hundred signatures about to be lodged with the Council*. Today they learned that Salford City Council planning officers are recommending approval of the club's plans.

"The response that we've had from the local public is overwhelmingly against the plans" says David Mintz of KMRA "If this was a local by-election they would say this is an unprecedented local turnout, so how the planning officers can ignore the people of Salford I do not know. The report is just trying to steamroll any concerns without addressing them..."

Objections to the plans have ranged from harm to Kersal Moor, to noise pollution, a lack of consultation, potential anti-social behaviour and visual impact. But the main concerns are traffic and parking – backed by Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) which states that it does "not concur with the conclusion of the applicant's transport consultants".

Basically, the club is indicating that it will put in place and pay for some traffic mitigation measures and residents' parking permits but the new planning report states that "TfGM have confirmed that that they do not consider the proposals include provision for adequate parking".

The stadium redevelopment, when at capacity, would see anywhere between 1,138 and 1,603 cars trying to park on match days, according to statistics quoted in the report. Original proposals to use the old Cussons car park are "not possible", after being turned down by the landowner the report notes.

David Mintz believes that this would lead to fans parking in residents' spaces with it being almost impossible to enforce...

"One of the things that stands out is that, even though they are suggesting these traffic measures and restrictions with the club paying for the residents permits, the policing of the parking has to be paid for by the tax payers" he argues "They expect the local police and Council to enforce it.

"Local police are overrun anyway, their budgets have been cut and they dread match days as it is, they've told us" he explains "I don't understand why Gary Neville gets to fill his stadium and we get to fill our streets with illegal parking, and then we have to pay to clean it up as well.

"The Travel Plan itself is almost like they haven't read the response from Transport for Greater Manchester which absolutely destroys every proposal they have made" he adds "The club's Travel Plan miraculously brings down the percentage of people travelling by car and it's very clearly massaged, I think, to try and paint a better picture. It's entirely impractical and unenforceable, and is an insult to local people.

"We can't cope with the level of traffic with a few hundred cars in the area, how are we going to cope when that increases?" he asks.

Indeed, TfGM proposed around £250,000 worth of improvements to `mitigate the impact of additional traffic' - enhanced pedestrian crossing facilities at the junction of Singleton Road and Bury New Road, and at Moor Lane and Bury New Road; increased road capacity on Moor Lane; and an `intelligent traffic signal control system' at the Bury New Road junction...

...But the Council's own Highways Engineer has rejected the plan as he "considers that it would be difficult to place the responsibility for addressing issues at the Bury New Road junction on to Salford City Football Club". Instead the club will pay just a one-off cost of £1,500 together with an annual fee of around £2,000 to programme signal timings at the Bury New Road junction and display upcoming match information on two signs.

Meanwhile, the club stated that it could not meet Salford Council's Unitary Development Plan (UDP) specification that stadia should have a maximum of 1 car parking space per 18 seats, or 288 spaces in the new stadium, and could only provide 68 spaces. Planning officers have totally wiped this policy in their report with a paragraph of gobbledygook...

"The UDP does not define a minimum level of car parking provision, and therefore notwithstanding whether the maximum standard is applied in terms of the number of seats or the maximum stadium capacity, the application proposal would not exceed the maximum standard and would therefore be deemed acceptable under UDP Policy A10..."

Residents are also angry that the club has actually already started `enabling works that will support the future installation of the new stands', before planning permission has even been granted.

Despite protests, the Council states "The carrying out of development without planning permission is not illegal. However, local planning authorities have discretion to take enforcement action, when they regard it as expedient to do so having regard to the development plan and any other material considerations."

The Council hasn't taken any `enforcement action', leading residents to believe that the stadium redevelopment is a done deal. They say this is further underlined in the planning officers' conclusion to the report, which highlights the benefits "in terms of the profile of the Club and the city as a whole" and "providing significantly improved facilities for supporters".

The officers add "The additional impacts of a larger capacity stadium in terms of on-street parking and noise would be the principal adverse impacts. Notwithstanding this, on the advice of the Council's Highways Engineer and the Council's Air and Noise Consultant it is considered that these adverse impacts can be effectively mitigated via a series of planning conditions in order to ensure no unacceptable impacts..."

Pointing to UDP Policy R2, which states that planning permission should not be granted if a recreational development has "an unacceptable impact on residential amenity in terms of noise, traffic generation, light pollution, hours of operation, visual amenity, or any other disturbance" and "an unacceptable impact on highway safety in terms of traffic generation, parking or servicing", residents remain furious and sceptical... 

"It's almost as if every single concern has been cast aside, it's just a very, very flawed report" says David Mintz "We are disappointed but determined. And this is far from over."


Salford City Council's Planning Panel will meet next Thursday 15th December to consider the application. The meeting is open to the public and objectors will have three speakers putting their case before the councillors decide.


* There were fifty letters of support for the redevelopment, with people stating `There are no significant problems with traffic or parking on match days'; `The existing ground is not fit for purpose and the proposal would provide better facilities for supporters'; `The club's supporters are well behaved and there is a conspicuous absence of the hooligan element'; `The scheme will regenerate the area and improve the look of Salford' and that `The proposal will provide for facilities which are lacking in the local area at present'...

Update: 15th December - Salford City FC stadium redevelopment plans approved - click here


See also previous related Salford Star articles...

Salford City FC Stadium Plans Revealed in Full - click here

Hundreds of Residents Object to Gary Neville `Insult' and Turn On Class of '92 - click here

Salford City Paying Just £27 Per Week For Moor Lane Ground - click here


Naipoki wrote
at 13:26:03 on 11 December 2016
And what you are ignoring, and wilfully ignorant about, Chris, is that this is not a victimless success story. For everyone who lives near the ground this will make their lives a misery, an utter misery, so by simply making this about your perceptions of the editorial stance of the Star and using this forum to grind your personal axe against the publication, you are missing what we, the residents, are saying. We would say it here, or in the Evening News, or in a petition or a letter to the council. We will say it in leaflets, to the council, and shout it from the rooftops. We are not interested in your critique of journalism - where are your answers to the traffic, noise, pollution and antisocial behaviour that will blight the area for years to come if this is allowed to go ahead? The answer is that you, and the club, don't have any because it is not a suitable venue for such a development.
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Chris P Bacon wrote
at 11:45:50 on 11 December 2016
First of all, I'm not a Man U fan, I'm a Salford fan. Second, I'm not talking about planning law or TfGM. I'm talking about the opposition the Star has had against Salford ever since the takeover. I'm talking about balanced reporting, which the Salford Star struggles with. I'm not sure some of you get it. With every story, there are two sides. The Star only ever prints one side in its editorials, rather than print both sides and let people decide. Big business is ALWAYS bad. The council ALWAYS gets it wrong. Let's leave aside the development scheme for a second. Here we have a local club, providing employment and enjoyment for Salford's citizens. People from all over the world follow the club on Facebook and Twitter. The cup exploits of the club have been seen around the country. Yes, that's due to the investment the owners have made, but it's a success story for Salford. If you ever spoke to Gary Neville and the other owners, you would realise this isn't a novelty scheme for them, but a 10-20 year plan to put something back into the game. But it's Gary Neville (actually, six owners including Peter Lim) and he's rich, so it MUST be bad. The Star has their philosophy so entrenched in 'big business MUST be bad', that it will never change. The contempt that the Star holds the club in, started as soon as the new owners took over. It's petty and it makes the Star look ridiculous for not celebrating this fantastic success story for the cit.
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Naipoki wrote
at 06:02:45 on 11 December 2016
Tangerine Dream - how insulting and simplistic. Are you saying both councillors, East Salford Community Committee, Transport for Greater Manchester, KMRA and many others are all so devoid of independent thought that they are only acting because of an article in the Salford Star? Most of these people have been active in researching the proposals and objecting long before these articles appeared, many of them won't have read them until recently. The Star is reporting on a popular movement - as is the Manchester Evening News now (eventually). You seem to have an axe to grind with the Star which is nothing to do with these objections. And it is not hysteria to object to major disruption, devaluation of homes, traffic chaos, despoiling of the area with litter and pollution, unacceptable noise levels and antisocial behaviour from fans, many of whom have been parking over driveways, abusing residents, littering and urinating on walls. If they all have your attitude it's a fair bet they will be continuing to treat the residents with contempt, as you seem to be. The arrogant 'just get used to it' attitude of people like yourself is just preventing any hope of a meaningful dialogue or compromise, and perpetuating the bad feeling.
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The Fat End of the Wedge wrote
at 06:01:46 on 11 December 2016
Stadium will be built, problems will be horrendous, council will pay for a new stadium outside of Salford (Salford Salford that is), ground will be redeveloped into luxury apartments at our expense, moor will be blighted. Well, that's what's happened elsewhere anyhow...
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Salford Star wrote
at 08:46:22 on 10 December 2016
Mr Tangerine - as you well know, the Salford Star doesn't `instigate' anything. It gives residents of Salford a voice that no other media will give, be that in Kersal, Boothstown, Cadishead or Broughton. Do think your comments are quite insulting to local residents.
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TangerineDream wrote
at 08:29:17 on 10 December 2016
I think it is also necessary to point out that the development of Moor Lane will surely bring about the arrival of the Four Horsemen of The Apocalypse which in turn will see conquest, pestilence, war and famine befall the area followed no doubt by plagues of locust, the death of household pets and rivers of blood among many other visitations. Get a grip! My mother lives close to Manchester United's Old Trafford football ground where a residents only parking scheme is in operation and which is rigidly enforced by parking attendants. However, and like on countless roads and streets I travel down on a daily basis, I often think how would an emergency vehicle get down many of them due to inconsiderate parking on both sides. The point is that this sort of situation is applicable every single day in just about every other area and not just a situation that would somehow only occurs when Salford City FC play at home. When I drive down Neville Road on non match days I can guarantee that a fire engine would not be able to get down there on most of them. Easy enough to get a parking scheme sorted out and let's see an end to the mass hysteria instigated by Salford Star which has consistently and vigorously stated its opposition to the Class of '92 takeover - even well before the plans for the development were mooted.
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Naipoki wrote
at 17:42:25 on 09 December 2016
Chris P Bacon - the reporting here is all a matter of fact. The opinions expressed are from members of KMRA and TfGM. The content quotes planning law. There is nothing subjective about any of this. Are TfGM biased too? Has UK planning law been determined specifically to thwart your aims to build a massive stadium in a residential street? Are they biased? The support letters and their contents are also included in the article. You are obviously a supporter of Salford City - and like most United fans can't accept any criticism of your views. (The Salford Star at least prints your spiteful comments which indicates they can take criticism, even criticism as unfounded as yours) I also assume you do not live near enough to the ground to have suffered traffic congestion, antisocial behaviour, noise and parking problems. Your attitude sums up the club fans' and owners' total arrogance and disregard for residents. And you obviously have a personal issue with the Salford Star - which, unlike the majority of the media is not swayed by fame and advertising revenue and doesn't just print uncritical nonsense ripped from council press releases. People do not have an issue with Salford City, or begrudge the club success - they want to be able to retain a decent quality of life without nasty, selfish people like you riding roughshod over their rights as residents and citizens of Salford. This is not about a little football club, it is about property developer millionaires and their corporate interests. Which we as residents are entitled to oppose.
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Neil Griffiths wrote
at 17:13:05 on 09 December 2016
So the Labour councillors are against the plan, but Salford Labour Council are going right ahead with it...what's the point in electing Labour if they don't take any notice of the people?
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Chris P Bacon wrote
at 17:12:47 on 09 December 2016
Good old Salford Star. If you want totally biased reporting, without any attempt to balance the arguments out, then this is the rag for you. I don't blame the residents for having concerns and wanting to ensure that those cancers are listened to. But yet again, this online rag that likes to see itself as the city's conscience takes a side and that's that.
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Simon wrote
at 12:30:01 on 09 December 2016
I think when it comes to the parking issue they can claim a resolution by imposing residential parking permits" on the surrounding roads. This will no doubt lead to the parking problems moving somewhere else. Furthermore, we just wonder how well policed these permits will be. People will stop their cars close by to drop off fans, which will invariably lead to traffic problems. I am also surprised that such a tight piece of land is deemed suitable for potentially 5000+ spectators, surely the concourse is too small and that should pose a major health and safety issue. The way I imagine 5000 people arriving at an event is like having 5 large secondary schools all crowded into a tight space within a totally residential area. It just beggars belief that the planning officers find all this acceptable. I just wonder if there is some sort of central government department that would look into the health and safety aspect given the size of plot for the proposed development?
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Les wrote
at 05:32:06 on 09 December 2016
Heaven help us if an ambulance or fire engine needs to get down moor lane or into Heathland road. As Cars could not even get through for several minutes at the last match, it was chaos. Trying to park anywhere near your own home did not happen.
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Miriam Starkie wrote
at 05:31:59 on 09 December 2016
My dad lives at the top of Nevile Road on the bend, it's impossible now daily to park outside my dads as residents from the apartment complex park both sides. This complex has it's own parking on Vine Street but my dad was informed that it costs for residents to park in there, if you can afford the apartment then park in the ground where it is. It's like me going to my dads but parking on Moor Lane!! Someone has earned a few bob if this gets passed. My father is ill and if we need to call an ambulance is it going to have to park halfway down the road? My partner and I have seen for ourselves the parking chaos on match days which absolutely beggared belief, they literally block the bottom of Nevile Road both sides right up to the Oaklands Road junction with no regard for residents. This is definitely a money talks issue and definitely a Nimby for whichever councillors have okayed it.
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sheila abbott wrote
at 21:07:01 on 08 December 2016
regarding the comment that the supporters are well behaved perhaps someone would like to enlighten me as to why at nearly every home game i am victim to watching people using the side of my house and the wall across the road as a urinal. on tuesday last i was subjected to seeing a "well behaved supporter" releiving himself up the wall across the road....believe it or not i phoned the police to report this and i was asked ....was it a neighbour...you couldnt make it up
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