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SALFORD CAMPAIGN AGAINST COUNCIL HOUSING TRANSFER BEGINS TO GROW
 

Star date: 10th September 2014

MEETING HEARS THAT EVEN SALIX WORKERS ARE AGAINST COUNCIL HOUSING TRANSFER

Last night, a Defend Council Housing public meeting in East Salford heard Salford City UNISON branch secretary, Steven North, tell tenants that most of his members who are involved in persuading people to vote `Yes' to the transfer of council housing to Salix Homes, would vote `No' if they had a vote themselves.

Over fifty people who attended the meeting also heard Councillor Peter Wheeler speak against the transfer, and the controversy over Ground 8 – the power to evict.

Full report on the meeting here...


Salford Council letter from 1978 Maria Brabiner with the Salford Council letter Defend Council Housing
click image to enlarge

Last night, over fifty people attended a Defend Council Housing public meeting at St George's Community Centre in East Salford, where speakers and the audience explained why they opposed the transfer of Salford's council houses to Salix Homes.

The ballot for the transfer is to be announced in the very near future, and over the past few months Salix workers have been visiting tenants, persuading them to vote `Yes' to the transfer. However the meeting heard Salford City UNISON branch secretary, Steven North, say that his union was opposed to the transfer and so were most of his members who work for Salix...

"Most of our members knocking on your door asking you to vote `Yes', if they had a vote, would vote `No'" he explained "Most UNISON members at Salix are opposed to this transfer.

"Also" he added "I've not met one councillor who actually lives in a council house who thinks this is a good idea."

Indeed, Labour Councillor Peter Wheeler, who lives in a council house, was one of the speakers against the transfer.

"Anything we get we have to fight for" he said, adding that Salford Council was never allowed a vote on the original transfer proposal "Council housing is an important part of housing and we need a decent stock of council houses. We need security of tenure, that's how you build a community."

Answering the Council's argument that it hasn't got the money to invest in decent housing, Councillor Wheeler explained that Salix hasn't got the money either... "The Council borrows money cheap, Salix borrows money dear from the banks and they will have to pay that money back, so rent levels will be maximised and there will be other charges to maximise income."

Others in the audience pointed to the lack of understanding about the transfer within the community, and the one-sided story that Salix and the Council is putting out, particularly around the change from tenants having a `secure tenancy' at the moment to an `assured tenancy' if the transfer goes ahead.

The main issue around this is Ground 8 which would give Salix `mandatory rights of possession' if tenants fall into rent arrears of eight weeks or two months. Salix have promised not to use these grounds for eviction but, as UNISON member Steve Quinn pointed out, the promise is not to the tenants but to Salford Council – and at least one other housing association has broken that promise.

"People are being asked to trade their secure tenure, their secure legal right, for an assured tenancy" he explained to the Salford Star after the meeting "If you're a secure tenant the landlord has to have grounds to take your property off you and has to show that it's reasonable. If you're an assured tenant it doesn't have to show this in eight out of 17 cases. The crucial one is Ground 8 to do with rent arrears

"It's been shown in case law (North British Housing Association v Sheridan) where the housing association gave a similar assurance that they wouldn't use mandatory grounds for possession" he added "In this case they did, and went to court and the judge and court of appeal decided that the promise didn't have the same legal weight as the legal right that came with secured tenancy.

"If it's a matter of a promise you have got to rely on Salix to keep that promise – and who's to say that a new management at Salix won't keep the promise? Or that Salix won't sell to another company which won't keep the promise?" he said "Also, the assurance doesn't apply to all tenants – it doesn't apply to tenants who have a notice order or have a court order against them, and that could include victims of Bedroom Tax or benefit sanctions who, through no fault of their own, have got into arrears and won't be covered by that commitment not to use Ground 8 to evict you from your home.

"It won't include new tenants either who will end up not having the same rights as existing tenants" he added "If you accept that you have no secure tenancy then you are open to all sorts of things in the future – flexible tenancies where the housing association says that if your income rises above a certain level then you are no longer entitled to social housing.

"We can't guarantee that Salix won't use Ground 8, and, at the end of the day, the promise is worthless" he concluded "The mandatory grounds for possession which Salix say they won't use are not in the proposal document, so tenants will not know that Ground 8 means eight weeks or two months of arrears. It should be in there, and I don't think that's full disclosure of facts."

Maria Brabiner, a Salix tenant and campaigner against the Bedroom Tax underlined the point in her speech to the meeting

"I've got nothing against Salix" she said "It's the principle, Salford Council provide us with secure tenancies. If we vote `Yes' our tenancy agreements will change to assured tenancy and it will be easier to evict us. We keep being told that there's no change, that our rights are protected. If so, why does this have to change? It's scary.

"From a Bedroom Tax point of view it will be easier to evict those struggling to pay" she added "Also, anybody who gets made redundant currently waits two weeks for housing benefit but under this government's Universal Credit rules you wait five weeks for money. That means you're likely to fall behind with your rent through no fault of your own. If you're threatened with eviction it's because of that change again from secured tenancy to assured tenancy – it's pretty scary but it could happen."

In contrast, Maria showed the meeting a letter from Salford Council from 1978 when her local Councillor Mallimson got her family re-housed from a damp private dwelling to a new council house where she still lives.

"For me it's better the devil you know" she said "Councillors can be voted out, housing association boards cannot. People may feel they are being pressured, bullied even, into voting `Yes', but they can take heart because many people are voting `No'.

"It's not worth the risk" she concluded "Anyone with a shred of doubt should vote `No'..."

See also previous Salford Star articles...

* Salford Council Hopelessly Biased Transfer Film - click here

* £3.24million Cost of the Transfer Process - click here

* Vote `Yes' and you could lose your home - click here

Tenant wrote
at 14:52:02 on 15 September 2014
I work in Housing Benefit and Housing Associations have higher rents than council tenants. FACT. Salix will borrow millions and they can only pay it back by increasing rents and charges. A Salix employee is hardly impartial about her employer being handed free property. Salford Star, please re-publish the article about how much the directors of Salix pay themselves.
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Tahir Chakotai wrote
at 11:19:36 on 14 September 2014
Thank you "Wrote for your comment". I know it seems a little harsh reporting Laura-Jayne, but she has contacted the Salford Star without the permission of the Legal Department or the Press Team. I do understand that she believes she has four pages of signatures, however I am sceptical, these signatures exist. I also understand that many Salix employees feel the same way, however none of them have posted comments on the Salford Star. So if they allowed her to post comments on the Salford Star, and never told her of the consequences, how bad does that make Salix Employees look. So yes, I agree with you, that it is unfortunate that she may face dismissal, but I am not a Salix Worker, and I knew the limitations of her employment concerning the press. If she did not, then she must know more about the "The Housing Transfer", than her own terms of employment. I do believe that everyone, not just Salix Homes employees, should take responsibility for their mistakes. Laura-Jayne made a mistake, and now she has to take the consequences of such actions. Best wishes to "wrote" from an Independant Tenants Advocate, Tahir Chakotai :)
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at 06:53:27 on 14 September 2014
I would not like to see Laura J Derbyshire lose her job over the comments she posted here. After all she has only been in her post for a year and may be unaware of the legalities of posting subjective material relative to her job online. She has four pages of signatures from Salix staff who agree with her opinion, so she alone should not be singled out. If not one of the signatories on those four pages could guide Laura on the consequences of her actions, I fear the calibre of Salix staff is in question. If the Salford Star follow up the outcome of the petition, I hope to see it speedily reported on the site
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Tahir Chakotai wrote
at 10:20:21 on 13 September 2014
Dear Laura-Jayne. I have just reported you to a manager of Salix Homes. I remembered that individuals from Salix Homes are not allowed to give personal views to a news paper or online magazine without the consent of your Legal Department or those who are employed by Salix Homes to handle press releases. Therefore you have breached your own internal policy. And your asking us to vote "yes" to privatisation when you can't even follow your own employment policies. "Very Interesting". I can inform you that the Salix Manager I spoke too will be investigating this breach of professional conduct, and I can state "that he is not impressed with your lack of legal protocol". I can also inform you that 18 months ago, a Salix Homes employee was sacked for commenting to a newspaper, without the consent of the Legal department and the press office. "have a nice day". Many hugs and kisses from an Independant Advocate, Tahir Chakotai.
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wrote
at 07:13:23 on 13 September 2014
I'm glad you love your job LJ Derbyshire and of course after a year working for and ALMO you are an expert on stock transfers. Is it really appropriate for Salix staff to be setting up petitions because it doesn't like differing opinions, you are paid to record, report and feed back. You obviously have a declared interest, so you should withdraw from this debate
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Bernard Brough wrote
at 07:13:11 on 13 September 2014
Time and again privatisation has been an unmitigated disaster for the consumer. There are things that should be under the control of local or national government and housing is at the top of that list.
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Tahir Chakotai wrote
at 07:10:09 on 13 September 2014
Dear Laura-Jayne. Getting Salix Homes employees to sign a petition does not mean the Salford Star is incorrect concerning what it is stating about the privatisation of Salix Homes. I would love to balance things up and say the Salford Star is wrong. But it's not. I do know the difference between a Secure Tenancy and an Assured Tenancy. I am a Salix Tenant. I have been abused by staff, and told half truth after half truth. I had a malicious email sent and forwarded to the general public by a Salix Homes officer, and was beaten over ten days by people on my estate. I have been discriminated against when bidding for appropriate properties. I have been offered properties which are run down and due for demolition. I have also been accused of being aggressive, when I have evidence that the allegations made by Salix Workers was falsified. I have been a Tenants Advocate and had vulnerable tenants attacked with falsified or inaccurate statements. I have had countless orders overturned because Salix Staff stated I was using threatening behaviour at Diamond House, when at the time, I had never been there. The list goes on and on. I have never received any apologies however the Salford Council Joint Legal Team has never stopped writing to me and apologising for the behaviour of their clients, which happens to be, Salix Homes. Why on earth would any tenant trust what a Salix Worker/Employee has to say. I am a mentally and physically disabled person who is forced to live on the top floor of a tower block, because Salix Homes choose to discriminate and for many years refused to move me to an appropriate property. I have a permanent physical disability, because I had an epileptic attack on the stairs, and fell while the lifts were in permanent disrepair. An article concerning this issue, is being investigated by The Salford Star, and hopefully will be in print soon. So how dare you attack the Salford Star by saying its information is false. I would have no problem recommending that every Salix Homes tenant should vote "No" to this privatisation farce. I for one would be happy to support the Salford Star in a legal claim against you, for stating half truths to the tenants of Salix Homes, and the readers of the Salford Star. "Shame on you".
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Laura-Jayne Derbyshire wrote
at 16:39:40 on 12 September 2014
I have worked for Salix now for almost a year and am very fortunate to say that I love my job. Having read the numerous articles that have been published over recent months and in particular the most recent one published on the Salford star- I feel compelled to respond. I have worked weekends, coordinated things back at the office and make phone calls to name a few things I have done on top of my day to day role. I would not have done this without first understanding what transfer means for my customers and for me as an employee. I can and will categorically state that I am 100% in favour of the stock transfer. In fact, myself and a number of colleagues have felt so incensed by this rubbish that we have invited staff to sign a petition saying that we dispute these claims and support the transfer proposals- in less than a day we have already filled 4 sheets- I can tell you, people here support the transfer in their masses.
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Salford Star wrote
at 16:20:11 on 11 September 2014
See Barbara Harper's comments below... We can assure you that we counted how many people were in the audience - over 50. Didn't see you there, you must have left early. The figure of over 50 is fact. We do hope you are not insinuating that we're lying? That does not do your `Vote Yes' cause any favours.
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Barbara Harper wrote
at 16:14:49 on 11 September 2014
I attended this meeting .first there were 25 people there at least 10 were part of DCH and the speakers told no facts that were true and it's not about bedroom tax that's the government not Salix homes or the Council .salix staff are not against the transfer .you need to get your Facts right and stop talking rubbish mess Wheeler,North and Quinn and Tapp .who didn't attend .
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