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SEEDLEY PRIMARY SCHOOL MEETS THE BULLDOZERS
 

Star date: 24th July 2011 

SEEDLEY PRIMARY SCHOOL TRASHED AS PUPIL NUMBERS RISE - AND PLACES AT A PREMIUM

Seedley Primary School, the huge red brick building on Liverpool Street which was one of the first of its type built in the country has been bulldozed, hot on the heels of the equally significant Langworthy Road Primary School, which was trashed around six months ago.

Not only is Salford's architectural heritage being erased but there's a distinct lack of primary school places in the city.

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`Shut schools, merge schools; shut schools, merge schools'. This has been the mantra of Salford Council for years, until, suddenly, someone woke up at the Council and realised there weren't enough school places for our kids.

The penny first dropped in Swinton in September 2009 when an influx of reception kids meant local primaries couldn't cope. At the time it was written off as a fluke by Councillor John Warmisham, then the Lead Member for Children's Services. After all, the birth rate was said by officials to be falling.

"Is there something in the water?" Councillor Warmisham asked at a full Council meeting "No-one could have predicted this…Predicting pupil numbers is a black art…"

Whatever `black art' mumbo jumbo number jugglers Salford Council was using got it totally wrong. The birth rate in the city is rising and, we understand that Salford is now short of over 350 school places.

But still the school closures and demolitions continue. Langworthy Road Primary School was demolished nine months ago, while this week the historic Seedley Primary School met the bulldozers. Tootal Drive, the third school that was closed last year, is currently tinned up and awaiting its fate.

Over in Charlestown and Broughton, North Grecian Street and Charlestown Primary School have shut this week, merged into one new school that will open in September.

But this isn't just about shutting schools, it's also about keeping and possibly re-using or reconditioning historic old buildings for new community uses. Meanwhile the Council continues to wash its hands of our architectural heritage, setting aside six months for new buyers and occupiers to be found before sending in the demolition gangs.

For a full background to this story please click here and here

susan cole wrote
at 1:40:55 AM on Thursday, December 13, 2012
i am vry upset that the school has gone this was my mother school we took her there a few years ago and she remembers the outside toliets
 
Fred Fish wrote
at 6:53:42 AM on Monday, March 19, 2012
Shane you are talking out of your backside! Closing these schools in a crime. You studied law so you should understand the importance of education for young kids, with out these schools class size will be bigger therefore not allowing for the advancement of the individual child.
 
aimee wrote
at 5:20:32 PM on Monday, December 19, 2011
this school was great this was the school i loved i went to a nother school when i was in year one
 
allis wrote
at 1:22:41 PM on Monday, August 1, 2011
you do not need expensive consultations to see that Salford has a booming birth rate. we have one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancy in the country coupled with the fact we have a growing immigrant population who traditionally have larger families.we now have parents who have to travel by bus to their childs school. the average cost is£4.20 per day for adult travel then the cost of the child fare.with just one child that is going to cost over£30 per week. we already have high rates of child poverty in salford, how many parents will have no choice but to keep their kids off school if they dont have the bus fare. SCC would do better to investgate why so many children have fridays off, and how many of those children have to travel by public transport. it should be every childs right to walk to their chosen school in their own community.
 
Measured View wrote
at 12:51:45 AM on Thursday, July 28, 2011
James, I do hope you're not inferring the closure of the New Academy on Salford Quays? That's run by a 'faith' outfit isn't it? Or were you just sticking with the popular view of SCC - don't worry they've had it for a number of years - where soon the RC diocese wont be allowed to run their own schools in the city. What's happening now is the rationalisation of the other schools. People warned you but you stood by watching schools being shut down, Now your schools are for the chop - its panic stations, and you're screaming about the unfairness of it all.Bottom Line - it's just another snatch and grab by the LA - s*d the education of the young - a builder will soon make an offer on the land. Of course that won't happen to the newly government-funded academy run by "Faithworks" will it???
 
James wrote
at 3:55:10 PM on Wednesday, July 27, 2011
Oh and Mass00025 - faith schools should be outlawed.
 
James wrote
at 3:54:27 PM on Wednesday, July 27, 2011
I passed the school a couple of weeks ago and could not believe it was marked for demolition. A real shame to see a beautiful Victorian building destroyed.
 
Eddy Rhead wrote
at 9:13:24 AM on Tuesday, July 26, 2011
Be interesting to see how this building was marketed, if at all. It would have converted beautifully to housing and im sure it could have been sold on at below market value to encourage a developer to pick it. As it is the area has lost yet another interesting building and therefore lost more of its appeal, therefore making the area a less desirable place to live and therefore driving land values down. Its a spiral of decline and eventually Salford will just become like Detroit. The building as it was wasnt really suitable for modern educational needs so i understand that it couldnt continue as a school but Salford really have got no idea when it comes to regeneration and sustainability. This isnt rocket science - Salford scorched earth policy of regeneration doesnt work - real, sustainable regeneration needs a mix of existing fabric (and the people who inhabit that fabric) for new investment to bond to for it to really work. Im not a Salford tax payer but if i was i would be happy for some of my council tax to go to pay for the officers responsible to numerous places around the world where regeneration has worked and also to cities that have the used Salford's model and show them how it simply hasnt worked. Maybe then they will see the folly of destroying Salford's urban fabric.
 
mary ferrer wrote
at 12:54:46 AM on Tuesday, July 26, 2011
I know only too well about the total lack of forward planning. About two years ago when i was a councillor we had a meeting with officers from education and I asked the question had they looked at the birth rate in Salford,because I was getting complaints then about the problem people were having getting children into schools. The answer I was given was they had NOW started to get the figures. It was a wee bit late in the day as the schools had been or were nearly built. I understand these old schools maybe a bit past their sell by date and cost a lot to run, but for god sake get it right when building the new ones. Also why have they not looked at other uses for some of these fine old buildings. We are not short of building land, just look at all the grasses knee railed areas across the city,all owned by the council. They can't get this right,letting our children down again.
 
Lynn Cullimore wrote
at 1:40:49 PM on Monday, July 25, 2011
This isn't just about a disregard for old buildings - it's indicative of a complete lack of foresight and forward planning on the part of the Council. I should know - I'm a governor at a school which was given 3 days' notice before the end of term that our intake in September 2011 is being increased by an extra 30 pupils. This is a whole classroom full, for which we need to organise furniture, an extra teacher, teaching assistant, and everything else that goes with it. In three days flat. This in a Victorian building where space is at a premium at the best of times and there is no room in the playground for a temporary classroom. Somebody somewhere in the Local Authority and Council has made an almighty cockup. It's only down to the goodwill and amazing organisational skills of our existing staff that everything will be in place by the time our new class arrives. Having said this, the maintenance costs for old buildings are increasingly onerous so I can understand why the Victorian school buildings are being decommissioned. But they are being decommissioned too quickly, and there is no thought to building in flexibility for taking on extra numbers when the new schools are being planned.
 
mass00025 wrote
at 1:40:36 PM on Monday, July 25, 2011
(Council leader John Merry) Four thousand new residents are a good thing for Salford!! Not if you cannot get your daughter into the same school as her sister….not one catholic place available in the whole of Salford!! Every single school oversubscribed in Irlam and Cadishead. Shockingly poor planning all round…
 
Brian F Kirkham wrote
at 1:40:07 PM on Monday, July 25, 2011
Dr Sullivan, I suggest you read my previous comment on Decembers subject on this issue. In the land of the council Old School Building = Potential Development Revenue. And Land Costs are still at a Premium.
 
Dr Shane Sullivan wrote
at 10:26:52 AM on Sunday, July 24, 2011
A very good article on an issue of current concern. I agree that the closure of these old schools is a problem with the resulting loss of Victorian architecture to add to the ill-considered and unqualified "modernisation" of many parts of Salford. However, there are cost issues. I am very familiar with North Grecian Street school. It became obvious that maintaining it as a school was simply not financially viable. The costs of repair and maintenance were eating into budgets and thus a new school was the only realistic option. However, it now remains to be seen what will happen to this fine old school building....
 
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